I discovered that my battery was not being charged by the truck on our last couple of trips. Last weekend we left with 12.73 volts (charged with house current prior) and came back with 12.53 volts. I have the new isolator that ATC is using. With the truck running the isolator was blinking on and off, not the continuous green light that means charging. A check of the battery voltage showed no charging current reaching the battery.
I checked all the usual suspects, truck battery, alternator, fuse, and power line connections. All looked good. Thinking a possible problem with the isolator, I talked with Jeff at ATC on the phone. He concurred that I was looking in the right places, told me they had heard of no problems with the isolator, but offered to send a new one to me. These guys are great, knowledgeable, and eager to help a customer.
After getting off the phone I thought of one place I hadn't checked, the marinco plug and receptacle used by many to hook the camper to the truck. I found the problem in the connections in the truck wiring to the receptacle mounted in the truck bed. The positive side was badly corroded, green and ugly like old fashion dirty battery terminals. The slot in the screw was gone. I had to cut the wire. It was also packed full of dirt on the inside. I replaced it with a new one today and everything checks out today -working properly.
I will return the new isolator that I don't need to ATC tomorrow when it comes in the mail. Thanks guys!
This receptacle is far from weather proof on the connection end under the truck bed. We live in snow country and I also religiously spray off under the truck when possible. When I installed this receptacle I figured it would possibly be a weak link.
So I suggest those of us running this connector to keep an eye on it, check it out, find a way to seal it to weatherproof, or look for a better replacement.
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Camper Battery Charging Problem
#1
Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:08 AM
2003 Ford Ranger FX4
1994 Ranger II FWC ATC Hybrid
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln
http://ski3pin.blogspot.com/
1994 Ranger II FWC ATC Hybrid
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln
http://ski3pin.blogspot.com/
#2
Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:44 AM
Hey Ski,
Another thing that helps is to coat the metal blades in the connector with dielectric grease. This will help prevent corrosion. You can also put this on the gasket which will maintain the gasket and help to keep the plug sealed.
Cort
Another thing that helps is to coat the metal blades in the connector with dielectric grease. This will help prevent corrosion. You can also put this on the gasket which will maintain the gasket and help to keep the plug sealed.
Cort
ski3pin, on 22 May 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:
I discovered that my battery was not being charged by the truck on our last couple of trips. Last weekend we left with 12.73 volts (charged with house current prior) and came back with 12.53 volts. I have the new isolator that ATC is using. With the truck running the isolator was blinking on and off, not the continuous green light that means charging. A check of the battery voltage showed no charging current reaching the battery.
I checked all the usual suspects, truck battery, alternator, fuse, and power line connections. All looked good. Thinking a possible problem with the isolator, I talked with Jeff at ATC on the phone. He concurred that I was looking in the right places, told me they had heard of no problems with the isolator, but offered to send a new one to me. These guys are great, knowledgeable, and eager to help a customer.
After getting off the phone I thought of one place I hadn't checked, the marinco plug and receptacle used by many to hook the camper to the truck. I found the problem in the connections in the truck wiring to the receptacle mounted in the truck bed. The positive side was badly corroded, green and ugly like old fashion dirty battery terminals. The slot in the screw was gone. I had to cut the wire. It was also packed full of dirt on the inside. I replaced it with a new one today and everything checks out today -working properly.
I will return the new isolator that I don't need to ATC tomorrow when it comes in the mail. Thanks guys!
This receptacle is far from weather proof on the connection end under the truck bed. We live in snow country and I also religiously spray off under the truck when possible. When I installed this receptacle I figured it would possibly be a weak link.
So I suggest those of us running this connector to keep an eye on it, check it out, find a way to seal it to weatherproof, or look for a better replacement.
I checked all the usual suspects, truck battery, alternator, fuse, and power line connections. All looked good. Thinking a possible problem with the isolator, I talked with Jeff at ATC on the phone. He concurred that I was looking in the right places, told me they had heard of no problems with the isolator, but offered to send a new one to me. These guys are great, knowledgeable, and eager to help a customer.
After getting off the phone I thought of one place I hadn't checked, the marinco plug and receptacle used by many to hook the camper to the truck. I found the problem in the connections in the truck wiring to the receptacle mounted in the truck bed. The positive side was badly corroded, green and ugly like old fashion dirty battery terminals. The slot in the screw was gone. I had to cut the wire. It was also packed full of dirt on the inside. I replaced it with a new one today and everything checks out today -working properly.
I will return the new isolator that I don't need to ATC tomorrow when it comes in the mail. Thanks guys!
This receptacle is far from weather proof on the connection end under the truck bed. We live in snow country and I also religiously spray off under the truck when possible. When I installed this receptacle I figured it would possibly be a weak link.
So I suggest those of us running this connector to keep an eye on it, check it out, find a way to seal it to weatherproof, or look for a better replacement.
#3
Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:53 AM
Cort, on 22 May 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:
Hey Ski,
Another thing that helps is to coat the metal blades in the connector with dielectric grease. This will help prevent corrosion. You can also put this on the gasket which will maintain the gasket and help to keep the plug sealed.
Cort
Another thing that helps is to coat the metal blades in the connector with dielectric grease. This will help prevent corrosion. You can also put this on the gasket which will maintain the gasket and help to keep the plug sealed.
Cort
I used the gasket and filled it with silicone, and silicones around where it contacted the truck bed. And used dielectric grease. My original connection was fried in a matter of months on salty winter roads. The new sealed / siliconed one is still in perfect shape.
2010 F150 FX4 with a 2010 FWC Hawk
#4
Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:01 PM
We found the same thing here at FWC.
The Marinco plug had some quality issuse over the years with the wire attachment set screws stripping out, and also the wiring was exposed that would allow for the possibility for corrosion.
Maybe about 1 1/2 years ago we switched over to a sealed marine pulg made by Attwood.
It is a MUCH better product and only a little bit more in price.
The wires are a thick gage and are molded into the plug, so the actual plug connections are less prone to corrossion.
These plugs are easily available on-line.
The Marinco plug had some quality issuse over the years with the wire attachment set screws stripping out, and also the wiring was exposed that would allow for the possibility for corrosion.
Maybe about 1 1/2 years ago we switched over to a sealed marine pulg made by Attwood.
It is a MUCH better product and only a little bit more in price.
The wires are a thick gage and are molded into the plug, so the actual plug connections are less prone to corrossion.
These plugs are easily available on-line.
Stan Kennedy --- Four Wheel Pop-up Campers
109 Pioneer Avenue, Woodland, CA 95776
(800) 242-1442 or (530) 666-1442
www.fourwh.com
e-mail = stan@fourwh.com
109 Pioneer Avenue, Woodland, CA 95776
(800) 242-1442 or (530) 666-1442
www.fourwh.com
e-mail = stan@fourwh.com
#5
Posted 23 May 2012 - 04:06 PM
All, thanks much for the information, I appreciate it!
2003 Ford Ranger FX4
1994 Ranger II FWC ATC Hybrid
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln
http://ski3pin.blogspot.com/
1994 Ranger II FWC ATC Hybrid
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln
http://ski3pin.blogspot.com/
#6
Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:01 PM
I also have the same problem and now working on the fix.
http://www.attwoodma...emale-connector
http://www.walmart.c...rs-Kit/16350985
Per another post from Stan...
I'll use the Attwood blue wire to run the ATC brown wire for the running lights.
Thanks ski3pin and Stan!
Mike
P.S. I am also replacing my Sure Power 1314 (serial # not part of the recall) with the one ATC now uses. I just do not like the heat from the 1314, the size, and not covered.
http://www.attwoodma...emale-connector
http://www.walmart.c...rs-Kit/16350985
Per another post from Stan...
Quote
Atwood Camper to Truck Plug Wiring:
"BLACK Atwood Marine Plug Wire hooks up to the BLACK FWC camper wire"
"YELLOW Atwood Marine Plug Wire hooks up to the WHITE FWC camper wire"
"BLACK Atwood Marine Plug Wire hooks up to the BLACK FWC camper wire"
"YELLOW Atwood Marine Plug Wire hooks up to the WHITE FWC camper wire"
I'll use the Attwood blue wire to run the ATC brown wire for the running lights.
Thanks ski3pin and Stan!
Mike
P.S. I am also replacing my Sure Power 1314 (serial # not part of the recall) with the one ATC now uses. I just do not like the heat from the 1314, the size, and not covered.
2007 Tundra Reg Cab Long Bed 4x4 4.7L + ScanGaugeII, 2008 ATC Cougar (built 06/16/2008)
# of nights in camper: 2008=15, 2012=21
# of nights in camper: 2008=15, 2012=21
#7
Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:44 PM
Ski,in rereading this whole thread I came to yours. Does your camper stay on the truck full time? I don't know what plug Marty,Jeff used on my camper but haven't had any problems.I don't take the camper off nor do I live in snow country. I have the "new" isolator and it works great,charging both house and truck batteries when needed via solar.
My question is will it corrode over time while still plugged in?
Thanks Frank
My question is will it corrode over time while still plugged in?
Thanks Frank
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