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#41 rando

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 03:52 PM

This is so incredibly depressing.   


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 12:13 AM

Depressing isn't the word I would use for it but the words I would choose would take things beyond PG in a hurry.  


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 01:20 AM

Depressing isn't the word I would use for it but the words I would choose would take things beyond PG in a hurry.  

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:50 PM

Well guys, it's not going to get any better-they didn't properly fund the wild horse program (probably on purpose, since it competes with cattle and sheep grazing). Now this gives them an excuse to kill off or slaughter all the horses (as they are proposing now). Yep, I know  there are to many horses out there and if they would properly fund the programs that work it might help to fix problem----but they are doing it so they can increase the number of cattle and sheep out there. Manage for the few I guess-gotta make that buck, get rid of the public input and all those environmental reg's, then abuse our public land-maybe sell it off to the highest bidder or increase the user fees so only the rich can enjoy them. 

 

Sorry, on another tirade, but after all these years of trying to learn how to manage the land right,  and just when we were sort of getting the hang of it-this bunch comes in and turns the world up side down!  Wild horse Annie where are you when we need you! 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 12:56 AM

Well guys, it's not going to get any better-they didn't properly fund the wild horse program (probably on purpose, since it competes with cattle and sheep grazing). Now this gives them an excuse to kill off or slaughter all the horses (as they are proposing now). Yep, I know  there are to many horses out there and if they would properly fund the programs that work it might help to fix problem----but they are doing it so they can increase the number of cattle and sheep out there. Manage for the few I guess-gotta make that buck, get rid of the public input and all those environmental reg's, then abuse our public land-maybe sell it off to the highest bidder or increase the user fees so only the rich can enjoy them. 

 

Sorry, on another tirade, but after all these years of trying to learn how to manage the land right,  and just when we were sort of getting the hang of it-this bunch comes in and turns the world up side down!  Wild horse Annie where are you when we need you! 

 

Write those letters and send those emails!

 

Smoke

 

I have no idea how many wild horses populate the plains...

 

Between 1988-1995 American Airlines flew from RDU (Raleigh-Durham) to Paris-Orly nightly.  Every night a Boeing 767-200 carried 20,000# of horse meat to Paris.  The Feds built a windowless freezer building near the southwest end of Runway 5L/23R for the sole purpose of storing 500,000# of horse meat for future shipping.

 

I do not know which airline currently holds the BLM horse meat contract for transport to the EU today, but, it continues to be big business for the Fed regardless of political affiliation and/or administration.

 

One of those ugly little international trade/business deals that has flown under the radar for decades.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:41 PM

Knowledge is power. For those who want to read some present information of the current situation in the Dept of Interior and the plans for public land.

 

http://beta.latimes....-htmlstory.html

 

https://www.thedaily...plorable-member

 

Alaska drilling in the wildlife sanctuary is on the fast track as well.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 06:01 PM

I have no idea how many wild horses populate the plains...
 
Between 1988-1995 American Airlines flew from RDU (Raleigh-Durham) to Paris-Orly nightly.  Every night a Boeing 767-200 carried 20,000# of horse meat to Paris.  The Feds built a windowless freezer building near the southwest end of Runway 5L/23R for the sole purpose of storing 500,000# of horse meat for future shipping.
 
I do not know which airline currently holds the BLM horse meat contract for transport to the EU today, but, it continues to be big business for the Fed regardless of political affiliation and/or administration.
 
One of those ugly little international trade/business deals that has flown under the radar for decades.

This implies that like the cattle rancher vs. the shepherd grazing disputes of years ago, there is a federal horse rancher vs private cattle/sheep rancher grazing dispute today. Can't imagine who might have the upper hand there, even though the horse & burro may be considered invasive species.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 07:40 PM

Fwiw,

15 of the 27 monuments being discussed were dedicated between '08 and '16. Seems disproportionate.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 07:48 PM

Fwiw,
15 of the 27 monuments being discussed were dedicated between '08 and '16. Seems disproportionate.


It seems to very disproportionate, I wonder why... Also interesting that Zinke is proposing a new monument (Two Medicine Country) in Montana, his home state. I wonder if there are some aspirations for a statewide office...
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 08:56 PM

It seems to very disproportionate, I wonder why... Also interesting that Zinke is proposing a new monument (Two Medicine Country) in Montana, his home state. I wonder if there are some aspirations for a statewide office...

Not getting "political",but it seems that everything #44 did #45 is undoing.

Just a thought.

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