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[cwdtmmrs]

I am not sure some of the above posted information is exactly correct, because the dates don't agree with the paperwork that came with my 1993 Ranger II. I have the original FOUR WHEEL CAMPER WARRANTY dated 05-15-93. There are 2 addresses or FWC, one in Woodland Ca. and one in Denver, Co. Oddly, as you can clearly see on the warranty, the warranty was authorized by "T."J.B.

 

I also have the Bill of Sale that when the original buyer sold it (fully loaded with all of the extras) in 1996 for $2,195.00. I purchased it from the 3rd owner in 2007 for $1,000! It was in almost new condition. I still have the CL ad.

cwd

 

EDIT: There are some tags on my camper that I will check tomorrow.

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Edited by cwdtmmrs, 31 January 2019 - 04:11 AM.

[ckent323]

Old Crow, et al,

 

Here are the tags on the 1985 Keystone

 

[klahanie]

 

I also have the Bill of Sale that when the original buyer sold it (fully loaded with all of the extras) in 1996 for $2,195.00.

Just out of interest ... I have a 1/96 factory price list showing the Ranger2 at $5995 base. Easy to add $2K options. So the orig owner sold a 3 YO unit for $2,195 when a new replacement was ~$8K.

 

In those days you could buy lightly used and it made $ sense. Boy, times have changed !

[Old Crow]

The only data label (left?) on my camper is the serial number label shown as shown:

 

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Rats.  I was hoping for a manufacturer name.  Now that raises the question of why it doesn't have one.  I also found this NHTSA  "Motorhome and Pickup Camper Safety" booklet which tells us (on page 9) that the labelling requirements went into effect on January 1, 1973 (and included the name of the manufacturer).  I guess it's possible the top was cut off but it doesn't look like it in the photo.

 

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[Old Crow]

Old Crow, et al,

 

Here are the tags on the 1985 Keystone

 

 

The first is a Colorado 'insignia of approval' described like this in the Code of Colorado Regulations....

 

"1.11 “Insignia” means a seal, label, or tag issued by the Division of Housing that when permanently affixed to a structure confirms compliance as one of the following: 1.11.1 An “insignia of approval” pursuant to sections 24-32-3311(1) and 24-32-3311(4), C.R.S., issued by the Division of Housing or an “authorized quality assurance representative” pursuant to sections 24-32-3302(1) and 24-32-3303(1)©, C.R.S., verifying that a factorybuilt structure is designed and constructed in compliance with the requirements of all state or local ordinances or rules, including those for electrical and plumbing."

 

It's very interesting to see the second one shows "Four Wheel Campers Inc" (not "Four Wheel Pop-up Campers" or "Four Wheel Pop-up Campers Inc") on a 1985 camper when the Bloomberg record says 'Four Wheel Campers Inc' was founded in 2001.  I guess the most straight-forward explanation is the Bloomberg record is wrong.  Or perhaps there's some explanation tied to Tom and Celeste Hanagan taking over FWC around that time.  I was thinking it might mean Tom and Celeste wanted to drop the word "Pop-up", perhaps because they wanted to simplify their company name or perhaps even because they knew they were going to build a hard-top Four Wheel model (the HT model) sometime in the future.  I'd love to know more.

 

The other thing I'd like to take note of is those addresses on the second tag.  I don't think I've seen the LA, Sacramento, and Seattle ones before.  I assume they were dealers (not manufacturing facilities).

 

It's also not clear why that 1985 camper wouldn't have some version of the manufacturer's federal compliance label.  But then again, neither does mine.

 

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Edited by Old Crow, 01 February 2019 - 02:28 PM.

[ckent323]

As I wrote previously I had a 1984 Keystone and it had a Four Wheel Campers manufacturer label.  I may have a picture of it but I am not presently able to access those files.

 

I previously did research on Four Wheel Campers and I found that the name Four Wheel Campers was in use prior to 1984.

 

I hope that helps.

 

Craig

Edited by ckent323, 31 January 2019 - 10:18 PM.

[pvstoy]

Had a 1982 FWC Fleet that I used for a number of years. A friend had same model but 1981.