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#21 fuzzymarindave

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 02:54 AM

My take: never leave tailgate on and try for no rear overhang. Hawk has all the amenities (sleeping, seating, cooking , heating, frig, etc) of the Grandby just short of some floor space. If you really need floor space a Fourwheel camper is not a good choice even if a Grandby.
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Posted 24 April 2019 - 11:42 PM

Honestly, I'm sure you're fine. Your F-250 will handle the weight and shift in CG just fine. If it is a CC or Diesel, you'll still be balanced forward quite a bit anyway. 


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Posted 25 April 2019 - 02:17 AM

My take: never leave tailgate on and try for no rear overhang. Hawk has all the amenities (sleeping, seating, cooking , heating, frig, etc) of the Grandby just short of some floor space. If you really need floor space a Fourwheel camper is not a good choice even if a Grandby.


Hi fuzzymarindave
Been trying to understand your post, could you please elaborate a bit for me. I see more than than just a few square feet of floor space, with the grandby over a hawk.

Thanks Russ
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Posted 25 April 2019 - 03:45 AM

I read once that one # behind the rear axle is equivalent to three #'s in front of it. So one more vote to stay with the Hawk on a short bed truck since the extra length of the Grandby will be 100% behind the rear axle!


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#25 klahanie

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 05:27 AM

To put some numbers to it, near as I can figure, the F250 short box CA (cab to rear axle) is 40", the rear overhang (axle to end bumper) is 52", the Granby cog is ~ 43" (varies with layout and packing) and the lower body length is ~97".

 

Assuming the cab to front of box is ~3", the cog would be ~6" aft of axle and the Granby would extend ~8" past the bumper.

 

The short box superdutys have a pretty good length, ~6'10" so camper should be a bit more in the box than in CM's great pics, post #17.

 

My own first preference would be 8' box for a 8' camper but as I posted, I think I'd be okay with the set up above. As for counsel, there's so many over length or overweight rigs around I'm not even going there.

 

Major Con I see with the Granby is lack of rear bumper. It would be a real shame to damage the tailgate and maybe the camper door. They'll be work around tho.


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#26 DavidGraves

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 01:51 PM

Hi All

 

As an historical side note to this discussion, GMC used to make an 8-6" rear bed...cannot remember the badge on these trucks....but mostly in the late sixties vintage.

 

I don't think Chevy did this but only GMC.

 

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#27 Durango1

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 09:07 PM

Hi fuzzymarindave
Been trying to understand your post, could you please elaborate a bit for me. I see more than than just a few square feet of floor space, with the grandby over a hawk.

Thanks Russ

 

Actually on the flatbed model the ONLY difference between the Hawk and the Grandby is about a 20" wider dinette. (and of course more storage under the benches too.) We changed from the Hawk flatbed to the Grandby to have a place for the both of us to sleep when we do 'stealth camping'. (Hasn't happened yet!)


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Posted 26 April 2019 - 03:32 PM

Hi All

 

As an historical side note to this discussion, GMC used to make an 8-6" rear bed...cannot remember the badge on these trucks....but mostly in the late sixties vintage.

 

I don't think Chevy did this but only GMC.

 

David Graves

 

Chevrolet was called the Longhorn   GMC was called the Custom Camper


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#29 Colorado Mark

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 03:40 PM


 

Major Con I see with the Granby is lack of rear bumper. It would be a real shame to damage the tailgate and maybe the camper door. They'll be work around tho.

 

That was and is my biggest concern with the Grandby on a 6.5 bed.

 

Most times, I pull a trailer with an extended tongue on the trailer.  When no trailer, I purchased a solid, 18" ball mount extension.  Its about as heavy as an anchor on a battleship and just as stout.


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