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#31 5outta6

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 06:57 PM

Snow this weekend. at MNP


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 04:47 PM

Snow this weekend. at MNP

And rain at lower elevations, such as Soda Lake, which will quickly becomes impassable. This will require an early bailout. Fortunately, there are several, making The Road a perfect candidate for driving sections. Great for those of us who are just several hours away, but not so for those having a long drive. 


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:37 PM

Snow this weekend. at MNP

And rain at lower elevations, such as Soda Lake, which will quickly becomes impassable. This will require an early bailout. Fortunately, there are several, making The Road a perfect candidate for driving sections. Great for those of us who are just several hours away, but not so for those having a long drive. 

So right....I'm 12  hours away......


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:00 PM

If you don't already have this book, it's a must!

 

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X eleventeen! Might even invest in Mr. Casebeir's companion history book. And you can usually purchase those at the General Store in Nipton on your way out to the eastern starting point. If you can find copies I'll also suggest Bill "Shortfuse" Mann's "50 mysterious places in the Mojave" vols II & II as one or both of them list some interesting things about Afton Cyn in particular.

 

And yes, the depth of the water crossing has been getting deeper. There is no legal or viable by-pass. We had to pull the guy in the dark gray Pathfinder (not in our group) out of the muck with tracks in it on the right. To get there he had to go around the cable fencing intended to keep you out of there.

FWIW the CTD first across is on stock springs and metric 35's. Unlike the muck on the right, the bottom of the crossing is firm and solid.

 

The Avi Casino has always been a good rallying point for us. Fuel pricing is both reasonable and is the closest to the eastern terminus. There's even some dirt parking lot camping to the north side of the main building.

 

Worst stretch for me is between Kelso-Cima Rd. and the mailbox. That portion is cross-grain to the normal desert floor erosion, so lots of nose up/down pitching.

 

If Soda Lake is not so dry DO NOT attempt to cross it. If it is even damp I'd go around. I grew up around debris basins that are similar to desert dry lakes and they have no bottom when they are wet. Attempting such a crossing will turn a fun trip into an expensive one rather suddenly and severely!


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:47 PM

Having never done a deep water crossing like this, I wonder... how much water gets into the cab by leaking past the door seals?  And imagine your trans and diff vents have to be up high to avoid sucking water into them?


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Posted 07 December 2019 - 02:22 PM

X eleventeen! Might even invest in Mr. Casebeir's companion history book. And you can usually purchase those at the General Store in Nipton on your way out to the eastern starting point. If you can find copies I'll also suggest Bill "Shortfuse" Mann's "50 mysterious places in the Mojave" vols II & II as one or both of them list some interesting things about Afton Cyn in particular.

 

And yes, the depth of the water crossing has been getting deeper. There is no legal or viable by-pass. We had to pull the guy in the dark gray Pathfinder (not in our group) out of the muck with tracks in it on the right. To get there he had to go around the cable fencing intended to keep you out of there.

FWIW the CTD first across is on stock springs and metric 35's. Unlike the muck on the right, the bottom of the crossing is firm and solid.

 

The Avi Casino has always been a good rallying point for us. Fuel pricing is both reasonable and is the closest to the eastern terminus. There's even some dirt parking lot camping to the north side of the main building.

 

Worst stretch for me is between Kelso-Cima Rd. and the mailbox. That portion is cross-grain to the normal desert floor erosion, so lots of nose up/down pitching.

 

If Soda Lake is not so dry DO NOT attempt to cross it. If it is even damp I'd go around. I grew up around debris basins that are similar to desert dry lakes and they have no bottom when they are wet. Attempting such a crossing will turn a fun trip into an expensive one rather suddenly and severely!

 

 

Great post; thanks


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Posted 07 December 2019 - 03:55 PM

There's technique to crossings like that. You go just fast enough to push up a "bow wake." Doing so lowers the effective water level behind it. I might have been going a bit too slow, the last Tundy (bed shell) entered a bit too fast. Have to be careful with that, you can push the radiator into the fan with too much speed.

 

An important thing to know is where exactly the engine's air filter breathes at, both how high and where. We popped the top of the filter enclosure on both Tundy's which raised the air intake location to just under the bottom of the hood. Watching that video we should have done so on my CTD as well. It no doubt got close.

 

An addendum to my warning about Soda 'Dry' Lake; it can be dry enough on top to support you walking out on it, and a vehicle will break thru. Going around means missing a feature, but I suggest if no one in the group has experience in judging this sort of thing, and it has been wet not too long ago, that you go around. Who knows, maybe you'll stumble onto the Desert Megaphone while going around....


Edited by ntsqd, 07 December 2019 - 03:56 PM.

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