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#11 Barko1

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 08:03 PM

I'd also like to see critical thinking be part of the educational curriculum from grade school on, so a nation of sheep learns to discuss issues rationally. Dream on, eh?



Ways to go on that one :( Critical thinking can be difficult to find in higher education sometimes, political correctness seems to have taken it's place.

Need to start charging those rich seniors more for park admission :lol: I do mean that, wealthy people over 65 get a break, poor families don't.
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#12 ski3pin

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 08:07 PM

I feel your frustration, DurangoSteve. But, what would you replace Congress with? As for me, I'd like to see a real democracy where the American public votes in people based on real issues instead of on emotional trigger sound bites paid for by big business. I'd also like to see critical thinking be part of the educational curriculum from grade school on, so a nation of sheep learns to discuss issues rationally. Dream on, eh? In the meantime, I wholly support DD's idea that Wander the West should advocate for the parks and lands we hold dear. It's reasoned action we can take against a very big machine.


Well said highz, I appreciate your comments. Change starts with a small group of rational committed citizens. Maybe our fearless leader, DD, has started something. I hope so. I like it when dreams come true.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 08:14 PM

I feel your frustration, DurangoSteve. But, what would you replace Congress with? As for me, I'd like to see a real democracy where the American public votes in people based on real issues instead of on emotional trigger sound bites paid for by big business. I'd also like to see critical thinking be part of the educational curriculum from grade school on, so a nation of sheep learns to discuss issues rationally. Dream on, eh? In the meantime, I wholly support DD's idea that Wander the West should advocate for the parks and lands we hold dear. It's reasoned action we can take against a very big machine.


I'd like to see the members of congress replaced. We have "representatives" completely focused on re-election and fundraising. I'd like to see the lobbyists run out of town. They have more influence than we the people have.

You're right about the lack of critical thinking in education and in the general population.

The national parks are a gift from previous generations, and we're letting that beautiful gift go to waste.
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#14 MarkBC

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 08:19 PM

Maybe our fearless leader, DD, has started something.

So...are you guys suggesting that DD should run for Congress?! Posted Image Seems like the logical conclusion...but is he old enough? Posted Image
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 08:49 PM

Need to start charging those rich seniors more for park admission :lol: I do mean that, wealthy people over 65 get a break, poor families don't.


You know, I would go for that even though I will be eligible for that discount all too soon. I won't be a rich senior, though. There are a LOT of seniors who are poor. Why not just ask for a sliding scale (and how would you enforce that)? Plus, the NPs charge by the carload. I would guess the average entry fee is $20 per carload. Depending on the size of the family, and considering the possibility of carpooling, it's still a bargain - a heck of a lot less than an afternoon at the movies after including drinks and popcorn. Then factor in the few free admission days per year and it doesn't seem so bad to me.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 09:38 PM

IMO the admission should be less not more. It's healthy to get folks out in nature. Reduce the Pentagons 2011 budget increase by half, double the Parks Service budget, problem solved. Easy sneezy.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 10:19 PM

What he said!
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#18 DirtyDog

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 10:29 PM

The national parks are a gift from previous generations


I like this idea. We should be asking ourselves what of value we are leaving for future generations.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 10:52 PM

IMO the admission should be less not more. It's healthy to get folks out in nature. Reduce the Pentagons 2011 budget increase by half, double the Parks Service budget, problem solved. Easy sneezy.


Well said, but not only double the budget but do a little reorganization and get a greater percentage of that money to the ground.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 11:58 PM

Absolutely ski, the waste in government is obscene and if cleaned up could provide all the funding required to support our parks.

In rereading my original post I realized the comments are not appropriate for this forum so I've edited out my personal opinion regarding the efficiency of the gov't work force. I certainly don't want to detract from an otherwise important discussion here.
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