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#1 Roger

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 12:30 AM

I just saw this on SF gate, and was appalled.   What would you do if you saw someone doing this?

 

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#2 camelracer

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 06:20 AM

Maybe a year in the slammer will allow her to perfect her technique.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 08:03 AM

Several years ago at Chaco Cyn 3 or 4 thirty something euro tourist were tramping around the areas posted stay off. At the second ruin I said something. They pretended not to understand. So I did the stupid American thing. You know speak louder and try to be menacing.

As it turned out he did speak English. His excuse was "I'm was just doing what I see all the ugly Americans" doing in my country." I told him that when he saw that he should say what I was saying to him. And then I said (Sound familiar Ted?) "get the f##k off the area before I throw you off." Fortunately for me a ranger witnessed it and escorted him and his friends away.

I've mellowed a bit since then but I do believe we all need to protect our National treasures, sacred sites and antiquities. Pam was pissed at me for doing it because I was 60 an there were 3 of them. She was right of course but .... zebra/ stripes, old dog/new tricks? Maybe.
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Posted 24 October 2014 - 01:48 PM

What would you do if you saw someone doing this?

 

Maybe a year in the slammer will allow her to perfect her technique.

 

Since I usually have my camera with me, I expect I would be documenting the event, adding to the evidence that will help secure that year in the slammer for quiet reflection on her deed. Since I usually have the Lady with me, who deals with hundreds of middle school kids every day; well, I wouldn't have time to take action but I would enjoy the show.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 02:12 PM

I saw this yesterday and have read a few articles about it. Reading the comments after the articles is entertaining. The reaction of people is much the same as if she had done this on the statue of Jesus in a bunch of churches on her trip. And rightfully so, as these locations are kind of equivalent to many of us.

 

What would I do if I witnessed something like this happening. It would be tempting to pull a Jay and confront the person. (Jay, don't listen to your inner voice, listen to the outer one. The one coming from Pam. That is the voice of wisdom and reason.) But like Ski3pin, I would take photos. While in Olympic National Park a few years back we witnessed several visitors in a creek trying to catch the spawning salmon. We were only a few hundred yards away from a visitor center. Took some photos and shared them with the ranger back at the visitor center. Don't know if anything came of it.

 

As to this person in particular, her name and photo are on many blogs right now. The Park Service is investigating. I do hope that they follow through with full prosecution. One recommended punishment was to have her clean every toilet in the parks she defaced. Not likely to happen, but that would bring me pleasure.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 03:39 PM

Forget prison, she's too young.  Make it something like 2000 hours of community service, especially doing graffiti removal.  But don't forget the $5000 fine, so it has some sting to help her remember.  


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 03:50 PM

Many prisoners could benefit from art therapy. She would make an excellent teacher... for a long time.

 

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Posted 24 October 2014 - 04:05 PM

Definitely document it. Confront her? Hate to say it but I think she could whoop me! I do hope they come up with some form of appropriate punishment.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 04:18 PM

Reflecting back on this, I guess what hits the hardest is that people are so unbelievably dumb........................to a point it is hard for us to comprehend.


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Posted 24 October 2014 - 07:16 PM

Yep-like that famous photo of some guy trying to shove a bear into the front seat of his car-next to his wife and kids-so he could get a neat photo of their interaction. This photo gives me another chance to bitch about one of our (archaeologists) pet problem of photographers outlining pictographs (painted rock art) with caulk or some other type of marker so they can get a better picture. The chaulk interacts with the natural pigments used to draw the rock art and helps to destroy them; it costs and arm and a leg to repair damage like this (if it can and sometimes it can't).  While stupid people do stupid things, so-called smart people can do really stupid things :wacko: !

 

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