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#11 Wandering Sagebrush

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 05:29 AM

OK, first thanks everyone for all your input.   Here's what I think I am going to do.

 

As I have all my images currently organized by year, I think I am going to keep that strategy as a catalog.   My file names are off the order YYYY MM DD Place-name (or subject) Camera.    So a file from today's shoot in the backyard would look like 2015 05 29 Backyard D4s.   From there, I am thinking that collections or smart collections would be the next step, and I think there could be a great number of these.   I'd start with the place name or subject as the collection title, and possibly/probably add additional key words further refine or drill down.    This could be as generic as something like Bird or Mammal, but be in subcategories under those (assuming a subcategory is possible in collections), something of the nature of Raptor or Bighorn.    I need to learn more about collections and how they behave.

 

My added meta data will be pretty simple.   Just stuff like copy right, etc..

 

Right now, I am doing almost all of my photography on my laptop, as the OS on my iMac is too old to handle the version of ACR that I need for my D4s, so I am going to have to think through how I handle that.   Most of my files are on external drives, and I think I am going to make that more or less the rule, that all files are on external drives.   So, importing from camera or CF will be to an external drive, possibly to a second drive at the same time.   I will certainly back up to a second drive.

 

I am going to make an appointment at the Apple Store to find out about upgrading my iMac.   I really don't want to buy a new one, but a bit more memory and a current OS would be nice.  That presents the challenge of getting the two machines in sync, but I suspect that it can be done.   

 

If anyone wants to comment/poke holes in my strategy, feel free.

 

Thanks!!!


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Posted 30 May 2015 - 05:50 AM

Maybe this discussion will get me motivated to organize my developed images.

 

All my raw images are organized by date automatically when they're uploaded from a memory card to the computer.  Nikon Transfer automatically creates folders on the computer named by the date images were shot, e.g., a folder called "20150317" contains pics shot on March 17, 2015, which is handy enough for me.

 

Not all of my shot pics are keepers, of course, and sometimes that's obvious without any developing, just viewing in Nikon View or other viewer compatible with Nikon raw files.  Sometimes I decide that the subject matter wasn't interesting after all, or sometimes I shot several exposure brackets and later decided against HDR so I ignore the far-out exposures, etc.  Those obvious non-keepers I don't bother importing to Lightroom.

 

But it would be a good idea to better-organize images that make it through Lightroom.  I'll look into it based on the suggestions in this thread. :)


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#13 Lighthawk

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 06:42 AM

When I import, I pop the SD card directly into my iMac or use a card reader. LR will usually be running and will automatically open an import dialog. I use the option to import by date, which creates a folder 2015-05-29 inside my 2015 PHOTOS folder. The other choice is to import to a specific folder, which can be handy if it's a specific project. I agree with Mark and prefer to have my photos organized in folders by date.

Depending upon which camera I took the photos with, I also specify which import adjustments I want. I downloaded some Fuji profiles that are now listed in the menu of presets for downloads. You can apply profiles for specific cameras during import. There are also metadata edits where you can apply copyright info, that can be applied during import.

If I'm smart, I've formatted the card before I put it back in the camera, so the images I'm importing are all current. Other times you will find yourself importing a card that you've partially downloaded previously. No worries! Sort the import by date and you can check/uncheck the dates you've already imported. There is also a 'do not import duplicates' box to check as a default.

Once you get through the setup, it becomes a breeze. I can set up a download of 16-32 GB of images using my presets in less than a minute. The card reader seems to be the slowest link on my system, including time to build previews, so it might be five or ten minutes before I could review 200-600 images.

I think the process of culling images, then rating, keywording and sorting images is a worthy discussion to continue.

Edited by Lighthawk, 30 May 2015 - 06:44 AM.

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 11:59 AM

I have LR CC set up both on my iMac desktop and MBP laptop. When on a trip I download photos to an external 1TD  GDrive mini and do some basic reviews, keywording and editing. If I have cell access I sometimes post some photos to FB, blog or my web page. I can also figure out if I got the shots I wanted from a particular location or if I need to revisit before I move on. When I get home I plug the external drive into my desktop and import all the photos from there into a 4TB GRAID drive. I typically pick a top folder name and have LR create subfolders by date. I don't bother to have my images renames and instead rely on keywords and date ranges to find specific photos.

 

I have a group of LR plugins from The Turning Gate that I use to build my web site and blog, and then use LR's publish services to update.


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#15 Wandering Sagebrush

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 01:28 PM

I found that I don't want to have multiple catalogs. When I changed between the two (2015 and 2014) I created, LR said it needed to restart. So looks like I will use collections as a year differentiator. Since it doesn't matter where the physical images are, I can place them as needed.

Andy, I always do an in camera format after a download. I don't know if it's urban legend or not, but somewhere I read that did a better job of formatting.

Charlie, when I updated the OS on my MBP, I found that some of my older software was no longer compatible so I didn't update the iMac. That was probably a mistake, and I need to correct it. The version of Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) needed for a new camera was the reason I was forced to go to the new OS. I should have kept the two computers in sync.
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Posted 30 May 2015 - 03:47 PM


Andy, I always do an in camera format after a download. I don't know if it's urban legend or not, but somewhere I read that did a better job of formatting.
 

 

Agreed.  I format my cars in camera also.  However, I often want to wait until I know Time Machine has backed up my download onto a separate hard drive before I clean the card.  

 

I tend to rotate cards, which gives a second chance if my download or computer have a problem.  For important shots, I like to know I've uploaded my best images to my online galleries before I format the card.  I'm probably being overly protective against accidental loss.


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Posted 30 May 2015 - 04:31 PM

It is always best to format the card to the camera that you are using. This creates a handshake and compatibility . With different cameras I won't format until I start using a card. This also keeps a backup until then.
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Posted 24 December 2015 - 06:35 PM

I would like to revive this thread to ask some more Lightroom questions. I too am a newbie. (or at least am contemplating becoming one)

 

I just subscribed to CC because my old version of Photoshop, CS4, and the Adobe Camera Raw that it supports could not handle the ARW raw files from my new Sony camera.  Up until now I have used Bridge to manage files. I opened my files and made global adjustments; exposure and color balance adjustments, etc in Adobe Camera Raw, then opened the images in Photoshop as TIFFs and made final adjustments there.  (contrast, saturation, size, localized corrections, etc.)

 

Since LIghtroom comes in the bundle with CC I am wondering whether to use that program both for file management and for the initial RAW processing.

 

Lightroom does seem like a less cumbersome way to manage files than Bridge.  So my question is about the relative merits of doing my RAW processing with ACR vs Lightroom.

 

Any opinions, suggestions?


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 07:32 PM

My 2ยข worth.   I am using LR now, but I still don't like it.   It's set up, so I use it.   Almost all of the images I process go into PS CC for finishing.   If you're comfortable with Bridge and PS, and you have an organizational workflow/directory structure set up, stay with it.  There are a couple of things that are pretty neat, for instance the gradient filter, but they are not enough to make me feel warm and cuddly towards LR.  I don't feel the need to invest time into the key word, rating and sorting features.   

 

I guess I am a retro-grouch and/or Luddite, but It just seems like an extra step to me.

 

What Sony did you get?   Impressive cameras! 


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 07:41 PM

I use LR almost 100% of the time for both RAW processing and post processing (as well as file management). I do have the Nik/Google bundle and use Viveza 2 and Define the most from that group. With the color control points available from the bundle local corrections/adjustments are simple.

 

When you get that bundle the plugins are also available from PS, which I do use on occasion.

 

I used to use ACR exclusively for RAW processing but haven't found the need since LR 4 or thereabouts and Nik.


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