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[ETAV8R]

Think I saw some video on YT with those lifting bars instead of panels. Was that once in use by FWC? I like that better than the panels. No rivets in the vinyl and potentially the ability to have front and rear windows on the vinyl as well.

[Living The Dream]

Think I saw some video on YT with those lifting bars instead of panels. Was that once in use by FWC? I like that better than the panels. No rivets in the vinyl and potentially the ability to have front and rear windows on the vinyl as well.

To my knowledge, no the metal lifters where never used by FWC. I actually wrote them once and showed them the emt and whoever responded thought it was pretty neat. I have seen some other videos about the lifters and even made one myself:)
 

 

Let me know if you have any questions about it.

[PaulT]

Another advantage to tubing rather than panel lifting & roof support would be access to the solar wiring & possibly less chance for wire breakage over time.

Paul

[Living The Dream]

Another advantage to tubing rather than panel lifting & roof support would be access to the solar wiring & possibly less chance for wire breakage over time.

Paul

Good point!

[ETAV8R]

Looking at it more closely I can understand the piano hinges. What are you doing for a mattress? It looks like where the lifting bars are in your design is lower than where the piano hinge is located with lifting panels.

[ckent323]

Tim,

 

Did you shorten and round over the bottom brackets holding the EMT tube? 

 

In the video it appears that they extend an inch or two into the sleeping area and have 90 degree corners which would be a potential hazard to skin or an easy place to snag things. 

 

Nice job on the vinyl siding replacement!  Also the videos are good - thanks for sharing.

 

Regards,

Craig

[Living The Dream]

Looking at it more closely I can understand the piano hinges. What are you doing for a mattress? It looks like where the lifting bars are in your design is lower than where the piano hinge is located with lifting panels.

 

 

Tim,

 

Did you shorten and round over the bottom brackets holding the EMT tube? 

 

In the video it appears that they extend an inch or two into the sleeping area and have 90 degree corners which would be a potential hazard to skin or an easy place to snag things. 

 

Nice job on the vinyl siding replacement!  Also the videos are good - thanks for sharing.

 

Regards,

Craig

Both of you are asking very similar questions. Yes I did shorten the bottom brackets bit to not intrude as much as initially.  Still they poke out about an inch or so. Its actually no big deal at all, I did file the corner and they just kind of poke into the mattress area. No real issues.  you can see their final length at this point in the video. https://youtu.be/7U8R8nm84Q8?t=323

The tubes do kind of push into the mattress when lowered. I have a simple two inch foam mattress and the tubes just smush into it. So far it seems to be working okay. I do believe the piano hinged panels fold more flat and do not stress that mattress at all. I'll report back if it introduces any premature wear or anything like that. So far so good!

Edited by Living The Dream, 04 January 2018 - 04:32 AM.

[Berts]

Looks like I'm going to be redoing the canvas on my new to be 83 Fleet. Couple questions if you don't mind. 

 

-What's the arctic liner? 

 

-Do you get much cold air coming in through the window where it velcros? Since you did a real window that can open for air versus just a clear plastic see through window. I'm thinking I'll make it easier and do a window for light. I'll be camping mostly in the winter so wanting to limit any air flow into the camper. If its not much of an issue maybe I'll copy your window design. 

 

-Did you buy the 61" x 1 Yard rolls? Looks like the only way to do it but wanted to check. 

 

Thanks so much for putting these videos together, Massive help. Once I get going on the complete rebuild I'll start a thread on it. Just trying to put the pieces together for now but I'll be watching a lot of your videos many times over. VERY much appreciated Sir!!!

[Living The Dream]

HI Berts

 

The article linear is a second layer of fabric or cloth that you put up around the canvas to make a second barrier against the cold, It traps a bunch of air between the true outside canvas and your inside wall. That being said, I never actually did make an artic linear. Search the term on here and you will find many that have made on themselves though. 

 

Cold air through the velcro is actually not a major issue. Certainly a bit coming through, but honest not much worse than the rest of the canvas. With my buddy heater I can keep it warm in the camper, but you never really get the entire thing just warm and toasty. i think if I switched to a diesel heater it would be a different story. Your biggest issue in the winter caming is the condensation rather than the cold. 

 

 

I cant recall the exact rolls I used, but it should be listed in the google sheet listed in my signature. 

https://docs.google....WRMw/edit#gid=0

 

 

Likely thr 61 wide but not sure exactly. I did the 22oz, in hind sight I think the 18 would be a better choice to have a bit less 'bulkiness' when dropping the top. 

 

Glad you are finding the videos helpful. I have a ton of more four wheel camper stuff on my channel so keep clicking around. And feel free to grab a sticker, all details are on my website. tgmorrissey.com

 

best of luck with the build, send over any mor questions you have. - Tim

[kmcintyre]

If you are redoing it along with the panels, you could raise the height too.  I think that's an option either on FWC or ATC's.  I think 6"?