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#1 Bellbear

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 09:09 PM

I'm going elk hunting next week. Sunday night low of 7 degrees. I filled Cutura with water now wondering if I should winterize it. I sure would like water though. I do have a full take of propane so if I just leave furnace at 50 degrees will I have enough propane to make it 4 days?
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#2 ardvark

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:32 PM

Your fresh water tank is inside so it should be okay as long as you have heat. Your dump tanks are not heated so put RV antifreeze or windshield washer solution in them to keep them from freezing or better still try not to use them. If your dump valves freeze, which is certainly possible it is not too hard to thaw them with a hair dryer.

 

Are you bringing a gennie to keep your batteries charged? Furnaces are power pigs in comparison to other systems. Make sure you go in with a full tank of propane. A partial tank  with not have enough wet area on the tank wall to gasify. Low at night and coming up during the day to what? I think you will find your furnace runs almost constantly at 7 degrees. If your Cuchura is like our Ute I think you are going to see plenty of condensation on your vinyl. I know we do  we do even with our ceiling vent open.


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#3 Bellbear

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 12:05 AM

Mid to high 30's in day
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#4 Stray Dog

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:37 AM

Hallmarks really are not 4 season campers.  7 degrees is pretty cold.  It may be that you have even colder temps during your hunt...

 

I camped in mine a few times in temps that cold... the furnace will run off and on all night.  battery charge will drop continuously if you don't have a good way to recharge it...

 

The furnace blower is loud enough you're gonna hear it each and every time it comes on...

 

I don't think tanks are too much of an issue, you can use af in some, and the bulk tank is inside.

 

I think the larger problem may be the small diameter waterlines in the walls, perhaps to an outside shower or under the sink.  It takes a lot less to freeze those...

 

I think I'd get the the water I need from a few jugs inside the camper.  I'd avoid the issue of keeping things from freezing by winterizing before you go...

 

By winterizing first you avoid the effort to maintain liquid water and you perhaps avoid a expensive and time consuming repair should you freeze something up...

 

Your elk hunt will be more focused on the quarry and you're going to have a better time without the worry.

 

Get a good bull!


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:13 PM

Yep,

 

Drain and blow out the system as described by Hallmark they have a video at their site. Carry water in jugs or a big water container. I winter camp in my hallmark and use a 5 Gal water container sitting on the counter when set up.

 

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#6 nobueno

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 04:18 PM

To add a differing opinion, we have an Outfitter Juno, so not identical but pretty similar camper. We've been out single digits several times, with a wind chill well in to the negative teens. We always travel with water tanks full and have never had an issue. We're able to keep the camper around 62 at all times (warm I know but the wife and kid were in there). I don't remember ever using more than one tank of propane in 3nights/4 days, and we were even taking warm showers and cooking in there.

 

Not sure if Hallmark does this but we have a heated basement and the cold air return comes from inside the basement so our furnace might not have to work as hard as yours.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention we have 300 watts of solar. If I were you the battery would be my biggest concern.


Edited by nobueno, 14 October 2018 - 04:21 PM.

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#7 ardvark

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 11:49 AM

Hallmark basements are not heated, huge difference. 


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Posted 16 October 2018 - 01:09 AM

It got down to 9 last night. Camper was flawless. Stayed warm. Ran the lights. Fridge! Got back today from hunting solar charged everything back up!!
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#9 LosAngeles

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 02:10 AM

We are about to order our Hallmark - new - and the Truma Combi Plus is, by all accounts, going to be a game changer. 

 

It is super efficient, and also super quiet - and it is ducted so the heat goes not only into the Hallmark main compartment, but they duct the cabinets so the batteries dont freeze, and the 30 gallon water tank does not freeze... (if you havent winterized.... depending if it only dips down into freezing at night - which is when you'd be running the hot air....

 

so we are excited to do winter camping with it. 

 

If it was going to get REALLY cold... then i'd blow out the water out of the hot water tank, but even then the Truma Combi Eco Plus can still make hot air on either propane or 120v... so we can try camp but still be very comfortable..... just no hot showers 'till it gets a little warmer and we put water back into the system. 

 

I *hate* the super loud old fashioned RV furnaces so for me the Truma Combi eco Plus is worth the added expense. 

 

Game changer. 

 

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#10 Vic

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 01:57 PM

We were just out in ours, in Yellowstone, down to near zero overnight.  No problems, but I did leave cupboard doors open an night to assist in keeping the little water lines warmer.

 

I have noticed that the digital thermostat seems to run the furnace for shorter bursts, more frequently, and is less obtrusive.  In any regard, the furnace kept up and it was a great trip.  Biggest issue was keeping the snow off the solar panels so they would recharge the batteries during the daylight.  


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