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[Doff]

Ya, definitely, getting the theme here.  Thats a bummer, I thought I was a nice setup.  But everything ya'll are saying makes sense.  Anyway...I think I got the picture thing figured out, so I uploaded some photos of the rig.  Who knows...  maybe seeing it will change some peoples minds haha.  I didn't get any shots of the inside of the camper because....well its tough to get pictures of the inside of a FWC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Doff, 05 April 2020 - 12:18 AM.

[BBZ]

Kelly Blue Book has that truck for private party at 17k-21k..without the upgrades (which essentially are downgrades)... I think the price is very high considering my 14 F150 is around the same with 78k, 6.5 bed XLT and 5.0 motor (5.4 is a known problem).. even if it was worth 17k, which it is not, and the camper worth 20k.. that makes 37k.. Dude is crazy to think he will get more, just preying on your hope of getting a rig.. 

[esimmers]

Lots of good advice here. Of course I'm biased because I have a heavily-optioned 2009 Hawk listed here on the forum for sale. Nevertheless, I agree that, given how much a new FWC costs, a used camper in excellent shape is probably worth around what the owner has invested in it.

 

On the other hand, truck values (as others have said) can be had easily from comparable sales. Lifts and other aftermarket products aren't worth that much on the used truck market and may actually be a detriment because of the cost to remove them to return the truck to stock or near-stock configuration for the intended purpose. And, considering radical changes like 6-inch lifts may actually have caused damaged to the rig, one needs to be very careful.

 

A good comparison is the truck that the owner paid $2000 for a beautiful graphic of his girlfriend on one side of the bed and another of his dog on the passenger side. You as a buyer don't want either so the truck value is actually less than normal because of the expense involved in removing the graphics. If your buddy doesn't understand that, then you'd better shop elsewhere because friendships are more valuable that hardware. In my opinion, of course.

 

Good luck.

 

Ed

[Wildcat]

Even though my prior post and all the other posts have questioned the value of the truck and the resulting asking price of the combined rig, I will reiterate that there is some value in having a ready-to-go rig in your driveway. Many of the people on this forum who purchased their camper from a prior owner have spent some time and resources in tracking down their purchase and then getting their truck ready to carry it (and I include myself in that group). Since finding a good condition unit may involve travel time for viewing/inspection, negotiation, and related transaction costs, you'll have to weigh the benefit vs costs of buying from somebody you know. Worst case it will be a learning experience and maybe overpaying by an extra $5k (his $43k vs a more reasonable $35-38k) won't be a big deal if you own the truck for several years before upgrading it. Who knows, maybe after owning the hawk you might want to get more room in a granby and decide to sell the whole rig. I'm not sure if you had your heart set on buying a 4wheel camper before this deal came to your attention. This rig could be a good intro for you, if you can reach an acceptable price with your co-worker.

[Wildcat]

Doff, from your prior few posts on this forum it looks like you are an experienced truck camper owner from having previously owned a ranger, a hawk, a new ATC. What's prompting you to consider this rig vs your ATC that you mentioned in your November post?

[rando]

The photos definitely show a nicely maintained truck and camper.   However, that doesn't make up for the price being about $10K high.  Probably best just to walk away from this, it seems unlikely you would have a meeting of the minds without hurting some feelings, which is an added factor in a transaction between acquaintances.  With the current market conditions, there is likely to be a number of competitively priced toys coming on the market in the next few months. 

[Pax2525]

Walk away from that deal, its not worth it. Yes the truck has low miles but its not even the proper bed length. Its the 5.4L engine which is hit or miss. Some are amazing some people have horror stories. Dont even get me started on the 6" lift.....o boy

 

You can find a newer truck for the price he wants. The only catch is the fact its turn key and he has a camper to sell.

 

This is not a deal, actually its a terrible purchase for 45K-48K

 

I know its hard but walk away from this deal, as this is no deal and the owner is asking waaaay too much

[BBZ]

Walk away from that deal, its not worth it. Yes the truck has low miles but its not even the proper bed length. Its the 5.4L engine which is hit or miss. Some are amazing some people have horror stories. Dont even get me started on the 6" lift.....o boy

 

You can find a newer truck for the price he wants. The only catch is the fact its turn key and he has a camper to sell.

 

This is not a deal, actually its a terrible purchase for 45K-48K

 

I know its hard but walk away from this deal, as this is no deal and the owner is asking waaaay too much

Completely agree.. its a 10 year old truck, sure the miles are low, but its a 10 year old truck.. with an engine know for issues.. 

 

I would say, go find a truck (never been a better time to buy if you are in a good position).. and then go find a camper, lots for sale right now in comparison to better economical times...