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[PaulT]

One place I found them mentioned was in this reference written in bureau-speak: 

https://secure.sos.s...edDivision=2844

it isn’t the reference I found when I posted above, but I forget which specific magic search phrase that found it. However, contemplating doing that search again makes my head hurt. I’m retired now, and need to conserve the few brain cells remaining after dealing with 2020 thus far. It ain’t over yet & may have a surprise or two remaining to dish out. 

Paul

 

 

[ski3pin]

One place I found them mentioned was in this reference written in bureau-speak: 

https://secure.sos.s...edDivision=2844

it isn’t the reference I found when I posted above, but I forget which specific magic search phrase that found it. However, contemplating doing that search again makes my head hurt. I’m retired now, and need to conserve the few brain cells remaining after dealing with 2020 thus far. It ain’t over yet & may have a surprise or two remaining to dish out. 

Paul

Paul, I've been looking also without success. I remember reading the requirements when posted at Hart Mountain Antelope Refuge during fire restrictions.

[smlobx]

Here’s what I have been able to find about the Pulaski Tool

 

https://en.wikipedia.../Pulaski_(tool)

 

and an interesting history about the inventor...

 

https://www.fs.usda....prdb5444775.pdf

Edited by smlobx, 27 November 2020 - 09:53 PM.

[craig333]

A pulaski is a more specialized tool than a shovel or McLeod. As for moving mud or snow a McLeod might work but its a tall tool. A shovel can fit under a vehicle much easier. For fires it really depends on the terrain but generally with two people, one with a pulsaski and another with a McLeod  works well. If I could only carry one tool then the shovel wins for versatility.

[pvstoy]

A pulaski is a more specialized tool than a shovel or McLeod. As for moving mud or snow a McLeod might work but its a tall tool. A shovel can fit under a vehicle much easier. For fires it really depends on the terrain but generally with two people, one with a pulsaski and another with a McLeod works well. If I could only carry one tool then the shovel wins for versatility.

For trail work I only use the Pulaski for chopping out wood and the mattock side for grubbing. Pick mattock works best for chopping grubbing digging on the mattock end while the pick is great for moving rocks. McLeod is a great trail tool for moving dirt and chopping light roots. I would not be without one for efficient trial work.

A shovel is a wonderful tool that can do multiple tasks. Dig, chop, move dirt, make holes. Sharpen the edge.

For stream line packing and versatility for one tool, the shovel gets the go. Room for 2 tools add a McLeod.

For moveing dirt underneath vehicle as Craig mentioned a shovel just fits better. Lots of ways to use a shovel.

Edited by pvstoy, 28 November 2020 - 01:13 AM.

[Machinebuilder]

Thanks for the responses.

 

having always lived in the east the fire fighting tools arent known.

 

This gives me some things to consider as I prepare for retirement travels in a few years

[Kolockum]

Just FYI, a quality shovel used for firefighting and trail work is very different from the cheap shovels found at Home Depot. The spade is comprised of thicker higher quality steel and the connection between the spade and the handle is reinforced. Normally they come with a much higher quality hickory handle. This allows the shovel to take a lot more punishment from prying, chopping and scraping. You can also sharpen the edge to make digging and chopping easier.

[craig333]

The other side of this - I cannot count the number of times we have returned to our truck at a trailhead, etc., and found a note saying, "We used your shovel, we put it back, thanks so much for having a shovel!" And several times the note included, "And thank god you had one to use!"

 

 

I'll keep this in mind if mine ever comes up missing.

[nDub]

https://www.amazon.c...B006GZ22HW?th=1

 

This is a great small shovel.  You will not want to do any serious digging with it unless you need to.