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[ntsqd]

Oh yeah, I'd do it for me and not because the gumberment told me that I had to!

[Jon R]

The recent Oregon law change (Jan 2020) requires new RVs titled in Oregon to meet NFPA 1192 or a similar ANSI standard, which contains some sort of battery compartment venting requirement. I couldn’t find a free view of NFPA 1192. Compliance has to be shown by manufacturer statement at the time the new RV is titled. It appears that once you buy it you can alter it without violating the law. As always, altering a regulated aspect of a vehicle carries some risk of denial of an insurance claim.

Edited by Jon R, 07 December 2022 - 08:42 PM.

[Wallowa]

The recent Oregon law change (Jan 2020) requires new RVs titled in Oregon to meet NFPA 1192 or a similar ANSI standard, which contains some sort of battery compartment venting requirement. I couldn’t find a free view of NFPA 1192. Compliance has to be shown by manufacturer statement at the time the new RV is titled. It appears that once you buy it you can alter it without violating the law. As always, altering a regulated aspect of a vehicle carries some risk of denial of an insurance claim.

 

 

Thanks Jon..I assume NFPA 1192 is a federal statute but what is the Oregon statute changed Jan 2020?

 

Found this.  Not Federal but RV Industry generated:  "As announced this past summer, the RV Industry Association Board of Directors approved the 2021 edition of the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) 1192 RV Standard with an effective date of January 1, 2021 and a mandatory enforcement date of July 1, 2021."  https://www.nfpa.org...etail?code=1192

 

And yes I would expect Oregon to  glom onto any opportunity exercise regulatory controls in any form.

 

Would love to read the Oregon statute codifying and stipulating enforcement of RV industry standards.

 

Phil

Edited by Wallowa, 07 December 2022 - 09:00 PM.

[Jon R]

NFPA is an industry group that issues standards they hope to be picked up by government regulatory agencies. One thing I find frustrating is that these “private codes” are incorporated by reference in the laws and regulations the public is required to meet, but the groups do their best to charge fees to obtain the codes. A lawyer several years ago filed suits in 50 states to require the codes to be made available for free and he won, but now what the groups do is manipulate the search engines so the free web sites are pushed so far down you can’t find them. That lawyer runs a web site with all 50 states’ electrical, mechanical, and building codes and some other standards. I’m having trouble finding it due to the search engine shenanigans, but I have the address in an email I should be able to track down. If I find it I’ll post it.

[Jon R]

Here’s the article I found:
https://www.rvnews.c...e-effect-jan-1/

I do not know the Oregon code system like I do the WA system, but I’ll poke around and see if I can find the new regulation. It’s just going to point at those industry standards, though, and won’t directly say “vent your battery compartment, even if it’s LiFePO.”

[Wallowa]

Yup...lots of behind the scenes string pulling...by pseudo or appointed or elected powers that be..and no end in sight.

[Mighty Dodge Ram]

That begs the question…I use a Renogy LifePo4 encased in an ArkPak battery box. It lives in the bed of my truck, under a topper next to my cot when I’m camping. Am I playing with matches?

[Wallowa]

That begs the question…I use a Renogy LifePo4 encased in an ArkPak battery box. It lives in the bed of my truck, under a topper next to my cot when I’m camping. Am I playing with matches?

 

 

What exactly are your concerns?  Ignition/fire?  Fumes?  So far that I can discern BB LiFeP04 batteries do not off gas nor ignite...if in doubt check with Renogy...hey, life is a crap shoot!

[ntsqd]

Ever really looked under the bed? The amount of wasted space under there is amazing. If you're concerned about the battery I'd look at moving it to under the bed.

[FreezingMan]

Only in Oregon?

Wow...where is the statute specifying that the battery box must be sealed? Must be a new mandate since our 2016 Hawk [bought new here in Oregon] did not have a sealed battery box; screwed on lid with gasket was definitely not gas tight. Where was silicon sealant you removed?

Don't doubt it happening here in the Peoples Republic of Oregon and assume then that California would have had such directive first.

In the for what it’s worth column. In 2014 I purchased Fleet with FD with two AGM batteries. There is not a vent in the battery compartment. We lived in Oregon when we purchased it new.