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Eastern Sierra Dispersed Camping Summit: Dealing with The Hordes


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#31 Mighty Dodge Ram

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 04:35 PM

Foy: please thank your son for his service on our behalf. Hueneme/Mugu is due south of us about 8 miles. So sorry to hear about his experience with us, he obviously met the wrong Californians! 😂 And this area isn’t even that crowded compared to the LA area south of here. 


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#32 Foy

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 04:59 PM

Thanks MDR.  The worst of his experience in the Oxnard/Ventura area was in 2007-2008 when he was a baby-faced buzz-cut 19 year-old E-1.  He said he and his shipmates would routinely be ignored for service in restaurants and stores and they assumed it was probably clear at a glance that they were dead broke young Seabees too young to by alcohol and were probably not good tippers.  He  did say that the  acceptance by the locals was better in 2013-2014 when he was a 26 year-old Reservist on pre-deployment train-up at Port  Hueneme and Fort Hunter Liggett and had a pocketful of money and was clearly willing to spend it on pre-Afghanistan meals and refreshments!  But, he said, the crowds were much worse  the second time around.  My wife and I visited him both times and we noticed the crowds issues much more in 2013 when we spent several days there before his battalion flew to Afghanistan.

 

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#33 Taku

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Posted 27 February 2021 - 11:45 PM

I think the west hit the carrying capacity I would like to see and live with about 1850.


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Posted 28 February 2021 - 03:12 AM

i dropped back into this post.  i see a few are concerned about fees, restrictions, permits, etc.

again, i will give my personal experience on the deschutes river from .... 1980 something, to present.

the rampant TP clusters, etc, were elavating each and every year.  early on, not a big deal. later - whoa !, and a lot of that was from big guide camps who had many people.

i have witnessed much improved camp sites over the years, and much less TP messes in the bushes.  also less destruction of riverside trees for firewood, or for the morons who need to carve their initials....

its a pain to plan trips, and obtain permits, but it is worth it. it also costs a few bucks, but is really minimal.

 

an aside on fees - i live in oregon, over 65, and voila, i became eligible for pioneer license fees - which are minimal.  this pioneer license thing has been around for years.  but at this time, my vote is to throw it out.  anyone hunting or fishing in oregon, has to spend at least $50 to fill their gas tank, and travel to hunting and fishing locations. and generally, most have to have car/truck.  reducing fishing/hunting fees for seniors sounds like a good idea, but these days the ODFW, etc, need every $ they can get.  i get a 'senior, or veteran' discount from many retailers, but this is significantly less than the pioneer discount i get from odfw.  my option has to give the money saved to a conservation group


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Posted 28 February 2021 - 03:34 AM

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an aside on fees - i live in oregon, over 65, and voila, i became eligible for pioneer license fees - which are minimal.  this pioneer license thing has been around for years.  but at this time, my vote is to throw it out.  anyone hunting or fishing in oregon, has to spend at least $50 to fill their gas tank, and travel to hunting and fishing locations. and generally, most have to have car/truck.  reducing fishing/hunting fees for seniors sounds like a good idea, but these days the ODFW, etc, need every $ they can get.  i get a 'senior, or veteran' discount from many retailers, but this is significantly less than the pioneer discount i get from odfw.  my option has to give the money saved to a conservation group

Well said!  Like you, I donate to conservation groups.  Oregon Natural Desert Association (ONDA) and Water Watch of Oregon are two of my favorites, in particular Water Watch.  They are advocates of in-stream water rights and riparian habitat to help preserving fish stocks.

 

My $6 Pioneer combination license doesn’t nearly cover what the state spends so I can hunt and fish. 
 

Apologies for the hijack of the Sierra thread.
 


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