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#11 PaulT

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Posted 13 November 2022 - 04:59 AM

Those telling us that by 2030, we will own nothing and be happy about it do have a different agenda. Our complacent behavior will serve them well.

 

Chocolate covered ants tasted ok. Perhaps, high protein cricket bread won’t be that bad.

 

Four hundred private jets at COP27 was balanced by a broken sewer, but John Kerry flew commercial for a change.

 

I need to go camping somewhere warm with red rocks. I guess I didn’t manage to dodge Seasonal Affective Disorder this year. :wacko:

 

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#12 ski3pin

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 12:37 AM


So I will keep my gasser and try to wear it out before I wear myself out.

 

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Me too!

 

 

Add us to the list, please! :)
 


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#13 smlobx

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 09:32 PM

As was said above the end of oil reserves has been predicted many times. In the early 70’s when I was taking a geology class the prof said the world would be out of oil by 1990…clearly not the case but we were going through the first major energy crisis our country experienced..fortunately science and engineering marched on and we now have significantly more capabilities to extract oil in much deeper strata than ever.

 

I find the whole discussion about EV’s interesting. Many choose to frame it as all or nothing but I prefer to look at it as more of a blended solution. As an example, many households have 2 or more vehicles. If only one of them were an EV then local trips could be taken easily without too much disruption to one’s schedule and it would significantly reduce the amount of oil we need on a daily basis. 
 

I know that the question of how reliable “The Grid”, particularly in Cali is is a concern, but using solar panels and home battery back up is a way to mitigate it.

 

In short, we will need a diversified “portfolio” of energy solutions as we move forward and oil will be one of those for a long time.


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#14 Wandering Sagebrush

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 09:44 PM

I just read that Oregon is banning the sale of gasoline cars by 2035.  Hybrid vehicles are excepted.


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#15 OregonOzzy

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 10:05 AM

smlobx, I agree on your comment about a diversified portfolio.

I am travelling in Pakistan right now. On my last trip 14 years ago, the "in" thing was for everyone to have a gasoline generator for a very unreliable power grid. Now with most houses with solar panels, everyone is selling power back to the Electric Co's. There is talk of the Elect Co's reducing the buy-back rates. Most people are using UPS units combined with solar panels; much reduced fossil fuel usage.

Point being, a lot can change between now and next 13 years when my home state of Oregon bans sale of new gasoline cars.

I could not have imagined typing this while riding a bus between Lahore and Islamabad, while my son streams his NetFlix movies, 14 years ago either.


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#16 Stray Dog

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 11:51 AM

electric vehicles... so much in demand that the government has to mandate their use and then subsidize their purchase.


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#17 ckent323

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 09:30 PM

smlobx

There is lots of oil left in the ground.  The cost of extraction has been the primary limiting factor.

The world has yet to experience the consequences of the increased mining of heavy metals along with the heavy metal disposal issues at the end of battery life that the push for 100's of millions of EVs will bring.  It will become problematic.  Regulation will be required since corporations have demonstrated time and time again that they cannot be trusted to pay attention to environmental and safety issues unless there is a financial benefit in doing so (avoiding fines, sanctions, etc).  Of course the Politicians most frequently wait until the problems are already a big issue before implementing regulations.  As with our predecessors relative to their contributions to climate change, many of us alive now will be gone when these problems become severe.


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#18 BBZ

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 09:57 PM

Certainly not everyone can have an electric vehicle for a variety of reasons..

 

We are lucky to have our Gas Guzzling FWC carrying truck (which also doubles as a work vehicle for our roofing business), a hybrid Prius (which I can use for most of my work, just not hauling stuff obviously) and a full electric Kia EV6.  We drive a good amount and the EV has been really nice to have, saved a good chunk of gas money this year, not to mention the tax incentives.   Charging costs are around $8 (at home) to get us a full charge and a range around 300 miles (varies based on weather, high of 360 ish, low of 250 ish when really cold). We have solar and in sunny CO its impressive.. 

 

Good options out there but if everyone had an EV, the grid would be in big trouble..


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#19 Mighty Dodge Ram

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Posted 27 December 2022 - 04:43 PM

Well said ckent323, well said. 


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