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#31 flinchlock

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Posted 09 September 2007 - 08:34 PM

Another GREAT example...

http://www.wanderthe...275&postcount=7

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#32 benburnett

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:03 AM

Stan,

Great list. I like the way you put it together and it looks good. Here are a couple of things to change to update it to current.

12 volt outlet is standard on all campers. The options on our price list is for extra outlets in the camper.

The external tie downs are not required on any of our campers. We suggest them for certain applications or put them on at customers request. They are not needed though, every camper has the inside tie downs stock. This also applies to the composite beds. You have stated the same thing basically in more than one spot on the list for the tie downs. May want to consolidate that one.

Head room is from 6' 1" to 6' 4" in the campers.

Rear window is an option in all models of campers, not just the full size models.

We do offer the yakima roof rack systems. I just haven't put them on the price list yet.

We don't use a two piece lag bolt for the Jack Brackets. We still use an upgraded bolt/screw to install them the same way that you used to.

Again, I respect the list you put together, very nicely done. I hope our continued efforts to work with each other will last over the years. While we may not agree on everything, the customer is the one who reaps the rewards of us getting along as we have. Thanks for your help.

Your also welcome to come over anytime if you would like to get a better idea of differences instead of trying to figure it out from pictures or stealth visits.:D
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#33 Len

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 03:50 PM

Looking at Eagle Shell and Bobcat Shell photos on Taco trucks, it looks like the cab-over height is substantially greater on the Bobcat. I'm about to purchase a 2008 Tacoma Access Cab... Which one will sit higher and therefore have the greater wind resistance?
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#34 benburnett

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 04:01 PM

Len,

FWC raised their Eagle model to provide 6'4" head room in the camper. I would expect that would create a larger gap over the cab than us but I am not sure. They may have just raised the lift panels to give the extra height.

We have between 2 and 3" of clearance over the cab of the truck.
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#35 Len

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 04:13 PM

The stepped design in the bobcat looks like it might leave more alternatives open for designing a floorplan. I'm kind of partial to trying to create a settee (SP?) layout rather than a fold out bench/couch. Looks like the Eagle might be more challenging to accomplish that with... just at first look without yet sitting down with graph paper and measurements and trying to figure out.
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#36 benburnett

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Posted 23 September 2007 - 12:01 AM

Len,

Enjoyed chatting with you and I hope I didn't confuse you any more.:)

Again, either way you go, you really can't go wrong with the campers. Have a good weekend and enjoy the wedding when it comes up. I still think my hole idea has merit.:D
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#37 Brewery Meister

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Posted 23 September 2007 - 08:27 PM

To all of the members who bought an ATC............
Why did you ?
I'm sitting on the fence and can go either way.....
How about a top 5 reason list......

Thanks can't wait to hear from all of you............


Star,

I had already owned a FWC Grandby with my previous truck and sold it when I bought my 02 Tundra. I wanted to by another FWC because of all the great reasons I bought one to begin with. I called FWC and went to see them and was thoroughly unimpressed with their sales service, lack of follow through or real knowledge of the unit. I knew more than they did.

But I figured that well at least it's a good camper and I only have to deal with the salespeople once. Then when I found out that it would be a wait of over 6 months...added to an attitude of " well too bad we are the only game in town" I decided to start looking elsewhere.

I began to remember all of the times that I called FWC in the past and spoke to Mike Duncan and he gave me nothing but great advice and encouragement. The company seemed like a family. I didn't know the owner or anyone else but that was the feeling I got from them.

Not to mention, the camper was incredible.

So I was still teetering on the brink of buying a FWC or nothing when I found out about the other company and that the guys who had built the FWC for years were working there. My decision was made at that point.

Best decision ever. I met the owner and the guys who make the camper and they are top notch. They understand the camper inside and out, are extremely customer oriented and make a damn good camper that they stand behind.

Go with an All Terrain.

Clark
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#38 Sam

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 12:51 AM

Clark,

I think many shared the same experience as you described, but it seems like FWC has been working hard recently to bring customer service back to it's brand. This is evident by the fact that Stan from FWC is now a regular contributor to this message board.
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#39 Brewery Meister

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:01 AM

Sam,

Thank you for bringing up FWC's renewed interest. I'm glad to hear that they are getting involved again. It would seem that competition is helping everyone.

Clark
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 04:58 PM

Clark,

We've only had our camper since Aug. 2006 but in that time we've gotten great customer service from both the sales and service departments at FWC.
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