Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:09 PM
Just an update on this thread as of July 16th, 2010
Most all of our camper models now come standard with the "extended cabover bed", no additional charge.
The Falcon Model, Finch Model, Eagle Model,Fleet Model, & Ranger Model all come standard with the "Extended Cabover Bed" at no additional charge. You no longer have to pay the $ 575.00 on any new order if you want the extended cabover bed.
The full sized truck mdel like the Hawk, Grandby, Kestrel, & Keystone Model also come standard with the "Extended Cabover Bed" now. It will be a fixed cabover bed that measures 78" x 48" inches. If you want to add the additional 16" slide out with additional cushions to make it the full queen size, you would need ad add $ 375.00 to the price.
Some of the most recent camper changes we are excited about and so you can really see that there are many differences between the 2 brands of campers ...
Eagle, Finch, Falcon, Fleet, & Ranger Models now have 6' 4" of interior headroom.
The Finch, Eagle, Fleet (wide body eagle), Hawk, Kestrel, Ranger, Grandby, & Keystone Models all have a 22 gallon fresh water tank.
All of our full sized campers (Hawk, Grandby, & Keystone) now have enough room under the front couch / settee for 1 or 2 deep cycle batteries. We have made extra room because many of our customers these days are wanting dual camper batteries.
We now have a "wide body eagle" model available called the "FLEET MODEL" for customers that might want a little extra room inside their camper. The Eagle Model is 69" wide. The Fleet ("wide body eagle") is 75" wide.
In either the Eagle Mode or the "wide body" Eagle (Fleet Model) we can install the hot water w/ the outside shower option now. So if you have a small truck like a Tacoma, we can now put hot water & an outside shower on it. Yea !
We are using 6 gallon aluminum hot water heaters now. No anode rod required. These new tanks hold more water and are lighter than the older hot water heaters we used in past years.
We are installing hot water bypass valves and a low water drain in the campers that have the hot water system. So if you want to easily winterize and not fill the hot water heater because the weather might get below freezing, it is very easy to winterize the camper now.
We are now offering a small opening drivers side window on the Ranger, Grandby, and Keystone Models.
We are installing a high quality 30 amp marine plug on the side of the campers so you can hook the camper into your garage, generator, or shore power when available. All the campers (except the shell model) come with an IOTA 30 amp power converter inside the camper as standard equipment.
We now have 4 different fabric colors available for the interior couch & bed cushions.
All of our kitchen cabinets and small storage cabinets are now hinged and can be pulled / flipped open. We don't use any of the slider cabinet doors any longer. We have found the new hinged doors more user friendly.
Most all of our campers now have a LED floor entry lights to provide comfort and easy of entry into the camper as you get inside. Once inside the camper you can then turn on the interior lights.
We are now using a nice Wedgewood propane cook stove. This new stove has one large burner in case you have a big frying pan, and the second burner is the average size. This gives you more cooking flexibility depending on the size of your cooking pots and pans.
In all of our new campers (except the kestrel model) we are now using 2 smaller 10 lb. propane tanks. These tanks are much easier to find locally if you need a spare or a replacement. They will give you more flexibility on how you can use them. Customers seem to be really excited because they can now leave one tank in the camper to run the campers' propane items, and they can easily use the 2nd tank outside to fuel their outside camp stove, BBQ, lantern, etc.
We have switched over to a 12,000 btu furnace in all of our models. It uses less battery power to run the fan (the benefit ... your aux. camper battery will last longer) and the new furnaces we are using are quieter than the old Suburban and Atwood furnaces we have used in the past.
We are offering 2 different couches for most all of our models now. We can install the original L-Shaped roll over couch bed, or we can install the new Dinette style with 2 seats facing each other and a table in the middle. There is no cost difference between the 2 styles of couches.
On the Hawk, Grandby, Kestrel, and Keystone Models we are installing quality LED running / marker lights on the outside of the campers. These LED running lights will help to keep you safer while traveling at night.
We have a gas strut list assist available now for all of our campers. This is a nice feature if you are having a hard time raising the camper roof, or if you are planning to leave a little gear on the camper roof and need just a little extra help from a simple roof list assist. We can install this on any new or used four wheel camper.
All of our campers are now being constructed with a very modern interior for the walls, couch, & cabinets. We felt the older style Western Oak (oak wood grain) was getting a little outdated. Customers were commenting that the oak grain cabinets looked old. We are now using what we call a "Birch" interior. It is just a little lighter, and has a much more modern look to it. It is of the same quality. We DO NOT use any press wood or particle board in our campers.
All of the new campers coming off the production line will come standard with dual 12v outlets at no additional charge. With todays modern society, we found customers are wanting an extra 12v outlet for running items like a laptop, dvd player, or recharging their cell phone.
We now have the new, light weight, hard sided, cab-over campers available too !
Other features we have added the last few months:
Removable Front Opening Window available on all models.
We are now using polyfoam insulation on all of our camper models !
Optional 3.0 cu.ft. Refrigerator/Freezer (Hawk, Grandby, & Keystone)
More Drawers & Cabinet Storage on most all camper models.
Solar Panel -- Roof Mount -- 85 Watt w/ controller [Available on All Models]
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<<< i think that when you do a comparison you need to do it between like products.ie. the eagle and bobcat.the bobcat comes standard with extended cab also slide bed check the web site.its not fair to compare one model from one maker with a different model from the other maker.i visited both companies,FWC first and was impressed with their product.than went to ATC and saw that they made a product same quality but with different standard features.i also like the KISS idea.both companies have a spot in the market.its just personal preference.frank >>>
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Stan Kennedy --- Four Wheel Pop-up Campers
1400 Churchill Downs Avenue, Suite A
Woodland, CA 95776
(800) 242-1442 or (530) 666-1442
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