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Registering your pickup as "PM" or noncommercial in Ca. to save weight fee?


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#11 Casa Escarlata Robles Too

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

I'll go back to my comment from March of last year at the beginning of this thread.

Check just how much the weight fee is for your registered rig.

I did and it's only $80 per year. Seems like not enough to hassle with IMO.

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 01:46 PM

If you are registered as a CA House car, I was wondering if you could tell me the exact abbreviations listed on the actual registration. (We are currently in Mexico where they are hassling truck campers that are not registered as a MH "Motorhome" or RV on their registrations.) Thanks!
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Posted 23 May 2016 - 07:34 PM

If you are registered as a CA House car, I was wondering if you could tell me the exact abbreviations listed on the actual registration. (We are currently in Mexico where they are hassling truck campers that are not registered as a MH "Motorhome" or RV on their registrations.) Thanks!

 

 

Curiosity finally got me...what exactly are there 'hassling' you about?  Assuming that Mexican 'authority' wants to charge a fee if you do not meet their criteria.  If yes, what is that based on and how much?

 

Reminds of Baja "Red Cross" checkpoints in every small town...donations accepted.

 

Phil

 

Ps...Actual CVC definition of "house car"...note it does not require specific construction and is only judged by:  "permanently altered, attached and equipped for human habitation".

 

As for carrying anything you want to inside your FWC...go for it,  that does not invalidate the house car definition..

 

Alternative is to get the hell out of Kalifonica. :D

 

 

 

362. A "house car" is a motor vehicle originally designed, or
permanently altered, and equipped for human habitation, or to which a
camper has been permanently attached. A motor vehicle to which a
camper has been temporarily attached is not a house car except that,
for the purposes of Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) and
Division 12 (commencing with Section 24000), a motor vehicle equipped
with a camper having an axle that is designed to support a portion
of the weight of the camper unit shall be considered a three-axle
house car regardless of the method of attachment or manner of
registration. A house car shall not be deemed to be a motortruck.


Edited by Wallowa, 23 May 2016 - 09:39 PM.

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#14 malimish

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Posted 23 May 2016 - 10:05 PM

Owners with truck campers are being granted TIPs (temporary import permits) at the US border but denied TIPs at the southern border of Mexico. Customs is stating that they do not allow pick ups that are over the 3.5 ton GVWR limit. Which is a mistake from translating the law from Spanish. In Spanish trucks over that "payload" are not allowed.

Kinda confusing but I know two people that are stuck in Guatemala bc Mexico won't grant them another TIP. Big problem. So we are altering our travel plans to prevent us from getting stuck south and unable to return north. If we change our registration to say RV, it would solve the issue.... But California doesn't have a RV destination, I don't think. Hoping someone with house car stays will pipe up and tell me the details of their registration.


Curiosity finally got me...what exactly are there 'hassling' you about? Assuming that Mexican 'authority' wants to charge a fee if you do not meet their criteria. If yes, what is that based on and how much?

Reminds of Baja "Red Cross" checkpoints in every small town...donations accepted.

Phil

Ps...Actual CVC definition of "house car"...note it does not require specific construction and is only judged by: "permanently altered, attached and equipped for human habitation".

As for carrying anything you want to inside your FWC...go for it, that does not invalidate the house car definition..

Alternative is to get the hell out of Kalifonica. :D



362. A "house car" is a motor vehicle originally designed, or
permanently altered, and equipped for human habitation, or to which a
camper has been permanently attached. A motor vehicle to which a
camper has been temporarily attached is not a house car except that,
for the purposes of Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) and
Division 12 (commencing with Section 24000), a motor vehicle equipped
with a camper having an axle that is designed to support a portion
of the weight of the camper unit shall be considered a three-axle
house car regardless of the method of attachment or manner of
registration. A house car shall not be deemed to be a motortruck.


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Posted 23 May 2016 - 10:07 PM

Btw. Ours is bolted down instead of attached using a turn buckle so we should qualify.
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:06 AM

Btw. Ours is bolted down instead of attached using a turn buckle so we should qualify.

 

 

Hey you guys stay safe...as you well know it is a different game down there and the rules are constantly changing..

 

Good luck...Phil


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Posted 26 July 2021 - 02:41 PM

I just changed the reg on my truck from commercial to passenger. This is the third truck I have done this on since 1992. All have had "permanently" attached shells. This latest change, done earlier this month, was the most frustrating. I did it at SoCal AAA, and they were very careful to tell me that I can't use the vehicle for getting things from Home Depot, etc. This was never an issue before. They also made sure I had a bed in the back. I use the vehicle mostly for scuba diving and have a platform I built so I can stash my cylinders and weights underneath, and keep the rest of the gear up top. I took the foam pad out of my teardrop and put that on the platform, and that satisfied. Now I carry a couple of sleeping bags, just in case. I saved, as always, the $80 weight fee.


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#18 Casa Escarlata Robles Too

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Posted 26 July 2021 - 07:20 PM

Welcome to the cult.IMO not sure saving $80 is worth the hassle if you get stopped by the "law".

Just my take on the Cal.weight extra fee. I have owned a pickup for over 50 years in Ca and never

thought about not registering it as a commercial vehicle.

 

Although I think it's a stupid law since you don't register vans as commercial even when they are used that way.

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