Best truck for my 2002 Grandby?

bajabill

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I'm starting over on this post because I screwed up on the topic last time.

I have a 2002 Grandby and I'm looking to buy a slightly used truck to switch out.
Is there any advantage as to truck brand? Ford, Chevy, etc. Does the Grandby fit better on one particular brand of truck?
How difficult/expensive is it to beef up a long-bed 1/2 ton truck for the 8' Grandby? Or should I forget a 1/2 ton and go for a 3/4 ton? I'm trying to get the best gas mileage.

Any advice is appreciated as I really don't know which direction to take. Thanks!
 
First, I would check the guide on the FWC web site, and then I would contact Stan or Brenda at FWC so you can see what truck choices you have and whether you might have to build a platform for the camper or make other modifications. I have a 2013 F-250 with my 2014 Grandby. I personally think you would be making a big mistake with anything less than 3/4 ton - (Ford F-250 or Chevy/GMC 2500).
 
My opinion:

1. Most V-8 half ton regular cabs (optioned with the larger V-8 if two are offered) with leaf rear springs and a 8 ft bed and a 3.73+ rear end payload 2,000 pounds and so are a good choice for a Granby.

2. Most V-8 half ton extended cab 8 ft bed trucks payload 1,500 pounds give or take and so are tight on capacity.

3. Ford offers the payload package which increases the regular cab to 2,800 pounds payload and 2,300 pounds for the extended cab long bed (better rear axle, better springs at all four wheels, E load rated tires, heavy duty shocks, all for a only $1,500) last generation. Even more payload on the new aluminum cab models. Very tough to find used Fords with the payload package but look for a leftover new 2014 work truck with the payload package for a good deal, maybe two in the state of Iowa. (My 2013 regular cab payload package 5.0 V-8 work truck is not for sale since I love the truck. :) ) Payload package Ford 1/2 tons have a GVWR of 8,200 pounds on the door sticker and 7 lug nuts on the wheels.

4. The newer the 1/2 ton build date, the better the brakes. All models have have upgraded the brakes in recent years.

5. The Ford and Toyota Tundra bed rails are higher so 2002 Granby may or may not need a piece of plywood under it depending on how it was made. Measure to see. If you go 3/4 ton, then the Ford cab is higher so you still need the camper lift if the camper is low so measure the cab height. Granby's with the lift for bed rails and Ford 3/4 cabs have a couple inches of aluminum below the camper door and around 1" without the lift.

6. If you want to do hard off road driving, then get a 3/4 ton. Many standard 1/2's have 2 rear leafs plus the overload spring. My payload package 1/2 ton has 3 rear leafs plus the overload spring. 3/4 tons have 4 rear leafs plus the over load spring. Coming down off a rock with a camper on the back works better with 4 rear leafs. Air bags also work but they have their issues.

7. My 5.0 V-8 gets better gas mpg than a 3/4 ton gasoline. My truck weighs less and my engine is smaller. Expect 15-16 mpg with a light foot and a 5.0 V-8. Expect 10-14 with a heavier 3/4 ton gas truck and larger V-8 depending on how much technology the truck has. Both older trucks and larger engines will lower mpg since engine technology is changing a lot.

8. 3/4 ton and 1 ton regular cab long bed trucks lightly used can be purchased cheaply. I saw a one year old Chevy with 6,000 miles and a 1 ton for $6,000 less than my new 1/2 ton regular cab payload package model. The new price for a 3/4 ton regular cab Ford work truck was the same as my 1/2 ton. We wanted the better fuel MPG's and so got the 1/2 ton. Watch for rounded bottom bed corners on used Chevy/GMC which may require plywood under the camper to lift it above the rounded bottom bed corners for Chevy/GMC based on old posts. Check with FWC on fit.

9. Bigger cabs require bigger trucks. Get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton if you want a crew cab 8 ft bed and say goodbye to mpg for such a big truck in a gasoline engine.

10. If you want to put a 8 ft Granby on a 6.5 ft bed then get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton since so much weight hangs out the back.
 
iowahiker said:
My opinion:



10. If you want to put a 8 ft Granby on a 6.5 ft bed then get a 3/4 ton or 1 ton since so much weight hangs out the back.
That is a really thorough answer!
 
Yes it is and I read every word! Hmmm may have to rethink the Granby. Can you say Hawk????? Only orther real option would be the smaller cab and 8ft bed which will have a crappy turning radius.....
Thanks for the info!
 
I second the "chat to the factory" comment. I bought a 2011 Silverado a few years back and then almost bought an older Granby - luckily the seller warned me to check tailgate widths. My Chevy's has shrunk over the years. I seem to remember that I was told to look for a 2002 Granby or newer (and I am still looking).
 
Having a Grandby on a 3/4 ton, long bed, club cab, Cummins powered Ram, I would likely buy a 1 ton next time around, for the extra GVW rating. Right now, loaded I sit just shy of 8600 lbs. with a 8800 lbs. GVW. I am doing better than some but would like a little more overhead on the rating. I am not concerned about the weight of the load as I had custom made springs by National Springs made but it's the "legal" part of things. If I was over GVW, it could result in some serious liability if something happened.

I would NEVER recommend a 1/2 for ANY pop up campers. They are just under rated for a camper that will likely end up with a higher combined weight than what most think it will be. I am sure many will disagree but that's my opinion.
 
I absolutely agree with staying under GVW. I am amazed at how many people talk about being hundreds of pounds over weight but it's okay cause they can hardly notice. I'll bet the insurance companies will notice when something goes wrong and I'll bet they won't cover you if you are at fault. I will make sure I am in the legal limit of whatever GVW I end up with.....
 
Happyjax said:
I absolutely agree with staying under GVW. I am amazed at how many people talk about being hundreds of pounds over weight but it's okay cause they can hardly notice. I'll bet the insurance companies will notice when something goes wrong and I'll bet they won't cover you if you are at fault. I will make sure I am in the legal limit of whatever GVW I end up with.....
I'm one of those jerks who has to be ridiculously overloaded and then run around and tell everyone…..
and I couldn't agree with you more.
Your on the right track.
I'm putting a Grandby on a one ton SRW reg cab long box chevy. I'm sure the stock suspension will have no issue and there is always the benefit of (in most cases) beefier brakes. Which is a point that I rarely hear discussed and the problem that caused me the most grief in my past life.
 
I don't think anyone on this site is a jerk but I do know that some make decisions without understanding all of the risks involved. Brakes are a big one and I have read a few scary stories on that. The problem is never when everything is going well it is always when something doesn't. I don't ever want to read about anyone getting hurt or killed because they or someone else was driving way overloaded. I am glad to have found this board and I have gotten so much good info that will help me when I get my rig. I had never heard of GVW before this site and it is only through the posts I've read that I now know what it is and how important it is for my safety. I could have easily been one of the folks who got overweight (okay I've put on a few pounds) and not known until I was committed in a set up and then what....
I hope I didn't offend but I do believe it is very important to follow the guidelines as best we can. The life we save may be one of the wonderful folks we have met right here.
 
KILROY you're not so bad yourself.

Happyjax, , no offense taken.
" I don't think anyone on this site is a jerk " don't be so sure.
I'm just joking around with you. I was agreeing with the comment that you made concerning how people sometimes boast about running their trucks successfully overloaded but when they get in a wreck all of a sudden the load was not toooo heavy. It's all part of being responsible, mature and understanding that your actions on the road could have life and death consequences.
FYI, I haven't actually run across any jerks here but that does't mean there not out there.
 
Thanks DanT,
I really appreciate the great info and fun stuff and awesome pictures I get from this site. It has been my place to go for the last month. I would not want to alienate anyone by my posts. I do tend to say what I think though... that's why I stay away from Twitter...lol
 
I have a newer made 1/2 ton F150 with 14.5 " disc brakes all around so I feel a little better. I've also added airbags and an add a leaf in the rears. Plus E rated tires and Bilstein 4600 coil overs in the front and reg 4600 in the rear. It has the tow package as well. I hope it will be enough for my Hawk.
 
I'm running a 2002 Grandby on a 2008 Tundra Dbl Cab with air bags and E rated tires. It was a case of having the truck before the camper so I added the bags and upgraded the tires when it was time. I use pressure treated 2x4's to support the extra length and to give it the extra height needed to clear the bed rails.
 
I am fortunate that I have neither truck or camper so I am getting a new start with way more info than many others had. I can see where I would have been in the same spot had I not found all of the info here. It is amazing how an 850 lb camper turns into a 1600 lb monster when you feed it water, propane, a couple batteries and a solar panel or 2.....
 
Brakes and 1/2 tons: I looked through my magazine road test reports:

1. Current 1/2 ton trucks stop in 125-134 feet from 60 mph empty.
2. Current 3/4 - 1 ton trucks stop in 135-150+ feet from 60 mph empty.
3. 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks weigh more so larger brakes are a wash or worse than current 1/2 tons.
4. Worse brakes: 1 ton diesel 4x4 crew cab DRW because of the weight, over 8,000 pounds empty.
5. Buy a HD truck for great springs and bearings and frame. The 1 ton diesel 4x4 DRW can have up to 3 separate spring packs. The secondary pack is larger than my 8,200 GVWR primary spring pack.
 
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