Easier to build up or strip down?

elabut

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I am looking for a used FWC or ATC camper for my 05 Tundra AC. Of course I'm looking for the perfect camper ;), but I don't know what will work best as this will be my first camper. I am concerned about weight v space. I will usually bring 2 dogs (70# each), so it will be tight.

I am mostly seeing either campers for sale that are on the loaded side, or just a little more than a shell. So if I get a loaded one, is it hard to pull something out for more space/less weight? If I get a shell, is it cost effective/lots of work to build it up?

I don't think I want to go quite as big as the Hawk, because my truck is already weighed down with off road mods, plus I don't like the thought of so much side overhang.
 
My first ATC was a Bobcat, which I quickly outgrew from a space perspective. My Wirehair is a svelte 92 pounds, and with bird hunting and camera gear, dog, and me the old man… it was tight. I now have an ATC Cougar, that is a slightly built shell. I have a furnace, stove, and convertible sofa. It’s still tight, but manageable. More than anything, I miss a counter for a work space.

Considering you’re already packing a lot of pounds on the truck, my 2¢ worth is to go light with a shell and do a lot of cooking, etc. outside. Alternatively, consider a truck that can handle more weight. My F350 has a 4360 pound payload, the Cougar empty is about 1200 pounds.
 
you’re already packing a lot of pounds on the truck, my 2¢ worth is to go light with a shell and do a lot of cooking, etc. outside. Alternatively, consider a truck that can handl
Thank you very much for conveying your experience. I think I was just coming to a conclusion as you suggest (lighter/more space).
 
I bought a used Eagle about 2010 and subsequently stripped it down and rebuilt it. I think you could do either but it might be easier to strip one down although you'll end up dismanteling it to get stuff out. The way they made are very modular and not difficult to take them apart once you find all the fasteners, brackets, screws, etc. You'll quickly learn why they put it together the way they do and there's a lot of thought behind the layouts (weight distribution, ease of build, ease of use, etc.). If you haven't had a FWC before, if you got a used one and used it a few times, you'd find out what you need and don't need. For instance, I have a sink. I don't use it. I like to clean dishes, etc. outside. I hardly use the stovetop either for that reason but that's nice to have in bad weather. Counter space and storage is at a premium. I have a flatbed and if you have the room and don't take the camper on/off, flatbeds have a lot better space utilization and room. Good luck.
 
i would go minimal as your entry-level camper. u can always add to it over time, as u figure out your needs. and/or trade up. its way easier to think about what you need in a camper when u are out on the road, in the woods, under the stars, etc.
 
We are a couple with 2 dogs and have found that a Shell built out the way you like is the way to go. They have much more open space than a fully built out one. We have had a few different ones, but currently in a 2013 Grandby shell that came with factory furnace and king size bed. I added a 2 burner stove on the cabinet above the furnace (super easy) and its not to be able to cook inside when weather isn't cooperative. I also added a small cabinet and counter next to that (built myself), a front bench with storage and lastly a storage closet on passenger side rear of the cabinet as we found it to be dead space.. will see if I can attach pics..
 

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Thanks BBZ! Nice mods to your Grandby. I found a Fleet shell, just 2 hours away. Tomorrow, I am going to look at a little hard sided camper, and then will decide between the 2 very different campers.
 
Hey Elabut, my first truck camper was a FWC Hawk shell which we had for a few years, then switched to a hardsided Scout camper. I had either owned or had full-time use of a couple fully kitted out RVs beforehand. I don't feel equipped to tell you what would be best for you, but for me, the benefit of this general type of camper is 1) a warm sheltered place to be out of the elements, 2) light and nimble enough that it's easy to bring it almost anywhere my truck could get to by itself, and 3) simple and reliable - when I finally get there I don't want to have to fiddle with anything on my rig if it can be avoided. With consideration of those priorities, a reliable heater was a must-have. I also wanted an always-available counter or tabletop space to work, eat, etc. Dinette seating area is a strong preference for this. For cooking, I also prefer to cook and clean up outside with a 2-burner propane cooktop etc. Cooking outside keeps the camper cleaner, dryer, cooler in summer, less smelly, and preserves more inside counter space. It is very nice to be able to cook inside when the weather is bad, but my 2-burner stove can be brought inside too in a pinch. For toilet needs I like portable setups, either a bucket toilet or a cassette-style. One can build in a storage area for one of these if wanted, but if they are comletely portable they can also be relocated outside the camper where appropriate, or left home if they won't be needed, which leaves more storage space. Same approach to water/plumbing too - you can build in a sweet sink and water tanks and pump and everything else, but then you have to winterize it, and it's always taking up that space, and it's more to maintain and deal with. For me, I like the fully self-contained water jug that I can just completely remove from the camper any time it doesn't need to be in there. I've seen some truck campers beautifully built up and outfitted and if they work for some people that's great, but personally I want my truck camper to be pretty spartan and minimalist, and as light as possible. There are other styles of camper which are much better suited to being fully built out with all the amenities of home, in my humble opinion. If you go the route I'm describing, you may end up feeling the same and keeping it that way, but if you don't, I think it would generally be easier to build up whatever you do want from there, as opposed to tearing out functional stuff which you might not like. Quite likely also cheaper in the long run to get the shell and then add exactly what you want, compared to buying something with all the amenities and removing things. FWIW my hawk shell with propane cooktop and propane furnace and nothing else was 900lbs.
 
Have built out two ATC shells. Wanted to keep the weight down and have just what we wanted. If you are handy enough to build it can be a good way to go. Also, I have remodeled our present shell to change things around to work better for us after a year in the camper. One advantage of building your own is knowing how it went together and how to change it up.
 

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