Finally An Fwc Owner

rich

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Hello Everyone,

After a 2.5 year search for the right camper I am finally an FWC owner. Last Monday I bought a 1989 Fleet from a wonderful couple in Rough and Ready for $600. The price reflects the condition of the camper but it was still a screaming deal and I couldn't pass it up. I found it on the Gold Country Craigslist thanks to a post on the forum's used FWC thread. The couple I bought it from Steve and Wendy were great people. They really wanted to sell the camper and truck combo but I had no use for the truck and after meeting me wanted my wife and I to have it. We ended up through a series of timing issues spending most of the day and night together. They helped me mount the camper, washed it before we put it on my truck, waited and chatted with me wile I mounted it, offered me beer and dinner and even took photos of me mounting it and e-mailed them to me later. They bought a 1990 Toyota truck with a 1990 Ranger II on it to replace this rig and love four wheel campers. We are still in e-mail contact with them and trading pictures of our weekend adventures.

This is a Fleet not a Fleet II so it is about the size of a Hawk. It is 7'7" long, 79" wide. It has a full size bed, couch that converts to a single bed, 2 burner stove, 8-11 gallon water tank (not sure which yet, haven't filled it), sink with electric and hand pump, furnace with thermostat and a ton of storage. I was shocked at how much gear it gobbled up for the weekend. I bought it on Monday and spent the week getting it ready for the shake down trip to New Brighton Beach in Santa Cruz CA last weekend. The old Fleets mounted with four regular bolts through the wooden floor to the truck bed. By all accounts this was not a good system. So, I took the camper to FWC in woodland and had them retrofit it with the modern mounting system of eye nuts and turn buckles. They installed eye nuts in the bed of the truck and the camper and cut new port holes for accessing the turn buckles. Chicali was very helpful and did most of the work on my camper himself. I was able to get the camper functional and have a great weekend with it.

I still need to wire it up to the truck to have electricity and the mods and projects list is already huge, fix a few rivets on the lift panels, new linoleum, paint the cabinets, recover the cushions, 303 clean and seal the vinyl, repair a few thin spots in the vinyl etc.... For any of you looking at these older ones the Fleets that are 79 inches wide are a great deal because they fit on the little Toyota trucks but get you a camper the size of a Hawk or Grandby. In fact, this fleet is 1" less wide than a new Grandby and 5.5" less long than a new Grandby. If anyone searching needs them I can post exact dimensions. I will post the pick up, mounting and shake down trip photos here and will add photos as the restoration continues. Thank you to everyone for their advice and information over the last two years while I searched for a camper.

During our shake down trip this weekend in Santa Cruz our little Fleet earned itself a name. I was sitting in a parking garage, 6'10" clearance and I could go in with my camper which was awesome, and a teenage girl walked by the camper while I was getting something out of the back, she looked at the camper, then at me and with a level of sarcasm and disdain that only a teenage girl can muster she said "umm Arkansaaaa" ha, classic. My wife and I and the people we were traveling with thought it was so funny that the name stuck. So, WTW FWC forum, meet.... Arkansas!

The first pic is of the camper fresh off of the truck where it sat for 20 years without being removed.

The second pic is of me attaching the camper with large ratchet straps to get it home.....it worked great.

The third pic is of me steadying the camper while we get my truck pulled up.....cable jacks are scary!



I can only post so many pics per post will add more in a second post.

We love our new camper.....let the restoration and mods begin!
 

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Congrats. Is it just me? I don't see the pics.


no not just you
I am having trouble posting the pics. I have uploaded them in the gallery, you can see them there but for some reason when I click insert image, then copy the url from the gallery and past it in it doesn't come up and there isn't a browse and upload function within the post to insert the pic straight from your computer. Any suggestions on that? Not sure what I'm doing wrong there.

For now you can see them here:

http://www.wanderthewest.com/forum/index.php?app=gallery&module=user&user=236&do=view_album&album=93

by copying and pasting that into your browser
 
Okay figured out the pics thing so here are a few more:

Pic 1 - Truck and camper home safe

Pic 2 - propane closet on Fleet
 

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Toyota T-100 beds are notorious for the bed mounts cracking through and the bed welds breaking. When I took my bed liner out to go look at a camper before we picked up Arkansas I found that mine had cracked so I had my welder put in a couple of steel plates over the bed mounts and re-weld the other bed welds. FWC put the eye nuts right through those steel plates.
 

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rear eye nut installation

Camper Mounted at FWC
 

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More pics of the camper after mounting at FWC
 

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The final shot of the camper mounting at FWC

Second pic: Our McNab Ryder enjoying having his own bed. The last trip we took him on was 18 miles in 3 days backpacking with him carrying his own gear and sleeping in a tiny tent with us....I think he liked this better.
 

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Ryder trying out the loft with my wife.

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Arkansas in action at New Brighton State Beach, Santa Cruz CA
 

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Camper fully loaded with gear on the way home from the beach. All in all the shake down trip went great and we are ready to tear into Arkansas and restore and mod her into the perfect camper!
 

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Rich, looks like you and the family are already having lot's of fun. Good for you! I'll read your story to my wife about naming the camper. We hadn't thought about that initiation ritual. You are probably as excited as we are about learning to use it and possible little changes to make it fit how we will use it. Seems like that's part of the fun of ownership. Best of luck and happy camping and travels!
 
Congratulations, Nice looking camper. I know from experience that cable jacks have a high pucker factor. I love how the slightest breeze gets the camper rocking back and forth.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Nice find, I like that the propane tank is farther to the rear. I wouldn't have minded finding one of those when I was looking, I'd gut out the front portion and make a dinette/bed up there complete with the second window. Have a kitchen galley in the rear.
 
That's a good idea PODS, I really like the L shaped couch over a dinette though but i wouldn't mind getting more room by that little window in front for a reading nook for my wife. I'll have to play with some layouts on that. Currently I am working on how to deal with a lift panel with rivets popping out. Was working on a way to rivet it back in place while still in the camper by drilling out the blown rivets and putting a 1/8 inch piece of flat alluminum or steel over the wooden top of the panel and popping new rivets through so the wood at the top of the life panel would be sandwhiched between two pieces of metal, one I put in and one that is the hinge. I think it would be a better design to begin with because pop rivets crush wood. It sounds like it's not to do without removing the lift panel from talking to Marty, but I'm gonna give it a shot still.
 
Nice score!Does it have one or two vents?Our fleet has two vents with fans in both.Was wondering if they were factory or installed later?


I think your fans are aftermarket. We have only one vent and it's a crank style with no fan, I wish we had two. It doesn't work though so I'm thinking about putting in a fantastic fan once I get the electric straightened out.
 
That's a good idea PODS, I really like the L shaped couch over a dinette though but i wouldn't mind getting more room by that little window in front for a reading nook for my wife. I'll have to play with some layouts on that.


Yeah that is another cool way to lay it out, just depends how much counter space you want/need. Check out this link of pictures of an eagle setup like that if you haven't already seen it: http://homepage.mac.com/rasti/PhotoAlbum3.html

I poached the idea of those pyrex covered appliances from that link (took me a while to find the manufacturer) and really like them in my rig: http://www.wanderthewest.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1640/page__st__30

I think your fans are aftermarket. We have only one vent and it's a crank style with no fan, I wish we had two. It doesn't work though so I'm thinking about putting in a fantastic fan once I get the electric straightened out.


You can feel around the headliner above the bed where the second vent would normally be to see if the framing was set up for a second (which based on Buckshot62's post it sounds like it might). My Hawk doesn't have the second vent yet but the framing is there so I could pop one in (look for cross members between the two front/back roof frame members that the other vent is between spaced ~14" apart) . I have the parts to do it from the leftovers of installing a fantastic fan in my rear vent a couple weeks ago but I need to move a roof rack cross member out of the way because it goes over the top of where the vent would be.
 
I recently installed a FF 6600 with remote (and love it) in the rear vent of my Hawk....and thus...I have a crank open/stock FF vent (no fan) set up sitting in the garage should anyone need it. (has tinted flat cover)

mtn
 
I recently installed a FF 6600 with remote (and love it) in the rear vent of my Hawk....and thus...I have a crank open/stock FF vent (no fan) set up sitting in the garage should anyone need it. (has tinted flat cover)

mtn



Hi Mtn,

Yeah the assembly is shot on mine, was going to see if I could just replace the cranking assembly but I may end up having to put in a whole new vent.

PM me what you want for the vent and the measurements.
 

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