Investigating moving from ATC/FWC to travel trailer....

Thanks Frank. The first mishap on this trip as when actually carrying the canoe. Stepped on a slippery rock with my left foot, which then shot across my body and kicked out my right foot... I went down hard on my left side with the canoe still on my neck. Ouch. Left hand may have cushioned the fall as it was hurt/bruised. I consider myself to be in pretty good shape, and I'm sure having lots of dense muscle helps with falls. The DENSE brain maybe not so much...
My canoe had a weight of about #55. I always tried to be very careful carrying it.
I would sling it up on my shoulders and it balanced nicely.
But over the years it seemed to need more effort so that's when we went to the
Advanced Elements inflatable kayak.Used it for a few years but stopped going to
areas where we would use it. We have to be more mindful about our surroundings
The older we get. It only takes one bad fall and at the least you ruin the trip and at
worse,well we won't go there.
Hope you don't have any lasting effects of the falls.
Frank
 
If the camper is coming off, why not put the canoe on the truck? We always did that with the tow behind d trailer. Was nice un hulk trailer, set up camp and then venture out to other lakes with truck and boat.
 
Good idea Cpt. Yes, the canoe would be on the truck if we got a trailer. The height difference is not huge, but enough so that we don't have to step onto anything to put it up on top.
 
If the camper is coming off, why not put the canoe on the truck? We always did that with the tow behind d trailer. Was nice un hulk trailer, set up camp and then venture out to other lakes with truck and boat.
I wrote that one without my glasses. Hahaha! Everything looks so much different with them on!
 
I've also bashed my head on the short door frame, and have considered mounting my climbing helmet on the door. But then I'd have to take the effort of putting on the helmet.
 
Vic, just FYI, I believe Patrick - pvstoy - pulled/used a casita fiberglass trailer in rough terrain for a while for their adventures.
 
i have spent many nights sitting around the (propane) campfire pontificating with friends about what is the 'best' camper. The answer is always that there is no one best camper, they each have their strengths and weaknesses. We owned a 13' Casita briefly, and it was a nice camper, warm, quiet, comfortable and relatively well built. It was great to be able to leave it as a base camp.

However, towing has some pretty major downsides - it was never particularly relaxing to drive with a trailer. This is magnified on unpaved and rough roads. We also really like to wander, see what is down that spur, maybe a great hike or camp site - this is much less fun with a trailer as it is really easy to get yourself in a world of hurt where you need to back a trailer up 1/2 a mile on a two-track. Also one of the really nice things about the FWC is that you can often find isolated camps, even in busy areas as you can drive a little further than most other campers.

How about a van based camper? Even a 2wd sprinter with a small lift BFGs and a limited slip will be much more confident on unpaved or rougher roads than towing, with a huge slider door, and hard sides. The other appealing part about a van is being able to pull in, sleep, cook and leave all without needing to get out of the van - great for rest area camping on long road trips. Loading on the roof is a pain, but they do make drop racks, or a kevlar or inflatable boats are an option. Or even a boat trailer if the canoe is only on a small fraction of trips.
 
Hey Vic, sorry you have had some not so good mishaps. Getting older is not for the weak and we all have to make changes that accommodate our needs and travel style. Compromises...

We traveled with truck and topper, then 2 different FWC. A friend bought a Casita and made a strong selling points as he was into getting the best for the price range. We took the bait and sold the 1983 Toyota 4x4 long bed truck (amazing retro job I did on it...small block chevy 400 v8 etc etc $$$) and camper.

We bought the Casita and my friend (welder, modifier) welded simple trust support on the front tong to stiffen the flex they have. I got the high axle and put aftermarket shock kit on the axle. Replaced the tires with BFG All-Terrain's.

Vic, I towed that with my 2005 Toyota 4 Runner with V8 engine. And we went everywhere. Back roads, dirt roads, bouncy beat you up washboard roads. We took it out to White Pocket, Arizona 3 times and always got asked, how did you get that here??? Just replied, "It's just a drag".

It was able to survive and it is more the driving skill to tow it with minimal damage. It was a awesome base camp! Big windows big refrigerator with decent freezer. I do miss that feature when out remote photographing locations.

We also bought a roof top tent that turned out to be a disappointment for use and did not get the use out of it.

We sold it all when we found our current used FWC flatbed. This fits our style of camping and moving around faster much better.

The front of the trailer is prone to rock chips and our friend put on a clear cover that absorbed the impacts. The thickness comes in different thicknesses and seals up any finish you want protected.

That's it for now....
 
Casita. If I was to buy another one it would be the model with two beds on the sides in the back to allow a middle walkway. It has the Split kitchen, refrigerator on curb side, rest on street side. Replace the beds with wider mattress. Keep the table in the back for eating and never take it down. The we had twin bed in the back was a pain to crawl over your spouse.
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Call me weird, but I never grow weary of the photo tours of various rigs. Thanks for sharing the Casita!
Yes, tours are always good.

I forgot to mention that I removed the AC/Heat strip unit off the roof and put a power fan in place. Less weight on roof and bouncy roads having the roof flex up and down. Not to mention reducing the center of gravity.
 
Sorry about your injuries.
I would suggest working on your balance and getting more fit. Use more caution as we get older.
Every RV is a compromise. I have owned a lot of them.
As I get older I am liking smaller and easier in almost everything.
 
i have spent many nights sitting around the (propane) campfire pontificating with friends about what is the 'best' camper. The answer is always that there is no one best camper, they each have their strengths and weaknesses. We owned a 13' Casita briefly, and it was a nice camper, warm, quiet, comfortable and relatively well built. It was great to be able to leave it as a base camp.

However, towing has some pretty major downsides - it was never particularly relaxing to drive with a trailer. This is magnified on unpaved and rough roads. We also really like to wander, see what is down that spur, maybe a great hike or camp site - this is much less fun with a trailer as it is really easy to get yourself in a world of hurt where you need to back a trailer up 1/2 a mile on a two-track. Also one of the really nice things about the FWC is that you can often find isolated camps, even in busy areas as you can drive a little further than most other campers.

How about a van based camper? Even a 2wd sprinter with a small lift BFGs and a limited slip will be much more confident on unpaved or rougher roads than towing, with a huge slider door, and hard sides. The other appealing part about a van is being able to pull in, sleep, cook and leave all without needing to get out of the van - great for rest area camping on long road trips. Loading on the roof is a pain, but they do make drop racks, or a kevlar or inflatable boats are an option. Or even a boat trailer if the canoe is only on a small fraction of trips.

That's a good suggestion. When I was upgrading my 20 year old Eagle, I spent many hours on a road trip doing a pro/con list. Now my list and pro/cons would be different from Vics (or anyone else). Trailer went off the list pretty quickly. Spent a lot of time between van/FWC/ATC. In the end (for me) off-roadability was the deciditng factor. I felt a truck was more capable than a van (there are some offroad capable vans but that was how I felt about the vans BUT it might be perfect for Vic! Just think of all the electrical upgrades you can do! :)
 
Vic, you may have seen this (or not).

 
Vic
One of the frustrations I have with many Truck camper manufacturers (FWC especially) was the take it or leave it attitude they have. Aside from some minor changes, they build what they build and you need to adapt to what they offer. In 2018, I found Bundutec (https://bundutecusa.com/) led by Rory Willett, who spent 40 years at Northstar before branching out on his own. He is willing to build what you want (pop up or hard side) at very reasonable prices. If I recall, he built a camper with a taller door for a customer who was also having issues with clearance. It might be worth chatting with him if you still want the flexibility and versatility of a truck camper.

@BundutecUSA
 
Thanks for those ideas and links. Most truck campers are “galley” style and really feel cramped to me. And yes, the mobility and camping/exploration options are best with a truck camper.

My significant other is less enthused about remote places than I am, so this is perhaps a new phase for us.
 

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