Satellite Phones

Silvertip47

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Do they really work good?

The only time I've heard anything about them is one of my wife's co workers crashed his dirt bike in a remote area and broke his neck. He laid there most of the day drifting in and out of consciousness until someone came across him. This guy had a sat phone but it wouldn't work until he drove about a mile away. No, not a cell phone but a sat phone.

The sky was clear of any obstructions, trees, etc.

Sounds kind of "iffy" to drop $1200 on one?? :unsure:
 
<br />Do they really work good?<br /><br />The only time I've heard anything about them is one of my wife's co workers crashed his dirt bike in a remote area and broke his neck.  He laid there most of the day drifting in and out of consciousness until someone came across him.  This guy had a sat phone but it wouldn't work until he drove about a mile away.  No, not a cell phone but a sat phone.<br /><br />The sky was clear of any obstructions, trees, etc.<br /><br />Sounds kind of &quot;iffy&quot; to drop $1200 on one??   <img src='http://www.wanderthewest.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /><br />
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I've been involved with Search & Rescue for the last 24 years and haven't heard of a SAT phone not working unless the 45 degree angle to the sky was obstructed. I am only speaking of the aqcuisition of a signal however. I'm sure the SAT network at times can have issues, but the aqcuisition of a signal should work with open sky. Ours have always worked unless we are deep in a canyon and the angle to the sky is obstructed.
 
A personal locator beacon seems like it might be a cheaper alternative for emergency situations.
 
Do they really work good?


Sat phones work....and work well as long as you have a clear view of the sky. A sat phone can save your life in an emergency.

I have rented Sat phones several times...when I knew I'd be way out where there is no cell coverage for extended periods of time. IMO if you rent one two or three times....you may as well just go ahead and purchase one. I purchased the Iridium 9555 phone...a bit smaller and lighter than the older ones.

I also carry a Personal Locator Beacon (PL:cool: and a cell phone. Many of my trips are long solo ones (3 or 4 weeks). My girlfriend really pushed me to buy these devices to give her piece of mind. It gives me piece of mind too.

Keep in mind the satallites are constantly orbiting....so if you get no signal or a weak signal....you may need to wait a few minutes until it gets higher in the sky. Maybe that's what happened to your friend.
 
Professionally, in the recent past I have used both Globalstar and Iridium sat phones. To the best of my knowledge those are the only two companies providing sat service. As stated they work well provided there's a clear view of the sky and the battery is well charged. When I first had one it required a view of the southern sky. For me that has only been a problem in the extreme north latitudes, and I guess extreme south latitudes, and steep terrain. I suppose with the passage of time that maybe now there's a commercial comm satellite on a polar as opposed to just equatorial orbit, thus eliminating that requirement. I've had signal interference from both terrain and tree cover requiring me to move around, sometimes a long way till getting a signal. The Globalstar always seemed to get a better signal when attached to the external antenna and the hands free, (Vehicle) kit. Frankly we've scaled back on the sat phones and have found that using power boosters, (NOT those sold on late night TV) and external antenna's with our cell phones meets the majority of our needs at less cost. The down side of course is the booster is wired to the truck, (no truck=no booster). For those times I work really remote I do have an Iridium available and carry two batteries. It works well, seems rugged enough, though sometimes I still have to climb a hill to find the "Phone Booth". In my professional case the phone is more to facilitate business than safety as we have a stellar check in/check out system and I personally abdicate that all travelers develop one. There was an issue with blockage to satellites, I don't remember if it's still an issue or an issue specific to a given vendor. When at work tomorrow I'll check with comm geek #1 and can confirm if satellites are still an issue and post an update.

I personally think the PLB's have merit but my only experience with them are avalanche beacons. Fortunately I've never been caught in an avalanche and forced to use mine.
 
I personally think the PLB's have merit but my only experience with them are avalanche beacons. Fortunately I've never been caught in an avalanche and forced to use mine.


I'm referring to the GPS PLB that send out a signal (I believe via satellite) to an emergency monitoring service that sends search/rescue to your location. Its also dubbed "yuppie 911" due to some instances of inexperienced outdoor folks summoning help for some rather trivial things. Not quite the same as the radio frequency avalanche beacons.
 
I'm referring to the GPS PLB that send out a signal (I believe via satellite) to an emergency monitoring service that sends search/rescue to your location. Its also dubbed "yuppie 911" due to some instances of inexperienced outdoor folks summoning help for some rather trivial things. Not quite the same as the radio frequency avalanche beacons.


Thank you for clarifying my previous post. As you point out there is a great difference in the type and applicability of units. Travelers concerned with issues of a dire nature while on tour would want a 406Mhz transmitting, GPS positioning PLB.

As I'm the one who, "Muddied the water" so to speak, allow me to offer the following link:

http://www.sarsat.noaa.gov/emerbcns.html
It does a fair job explaining the three types of beacons.

To our original thread host Silvertip, I apologize for hijacking. I will quit now.
 
To our original thread host Silvertip, I apologize for hijacking. I will quit now.


I consider it a useful contribution.
 
To our original thread host Silvertip, I apologize for hijacking. I will quit now.


I thought your contribution was very useful....
 
I thought your contribution was very useful....



As do I!!! I also own a PLB and Spot. The reason I was inquiring about Sat phones is I have a 93 year old Mother who gets quite upset if she doesn't hear from me at least once a week. She does not do computers or cell phones so the Spot does no good for her.
 
As do I!!! I also own a PLB and Spot. The reason I was inquiring about Sat phones is I have a 93 year old Mother who gets quite upset if she doesn't hear from me at least once a week. She does not do computers or cell phones so the Spot does no good for her.


Sat phones are expensive....the air time is expensive....but sometimes it is the only way to get a "phone call" to someone who's important to you. I got a good deal on one through ebay.
 

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