Welcome to the future we deserve

I used to work in that area and Sunnyside or areas up the road toward Green Peter Reservoir are places I am glad exist as they draw in the hoards of people looking for a fistfight anyway, so that I can go elsewhere. People used to cram tents, pickups and trailers onto tiny pullouts out to the fog line of the Quartsville road (think a 45 mph paved road) for reasons that were beyond me. The Army Corps of Engineers had the difficult challenge of shutting those areas down, we just had the role of telling them they couldn't have a fire, it took a full time person to patrol that area, and it was our worst area to work for sure (15 years ago).

I was really surprised however, to be in northern BC in August with literally nobody in sight in a dispersed site on a river when someone pulled in and parked 4 feet away from our vehicle and said they were sorry, but all the other spots were taken and they were camping there. I lost it a bit, but in the end if they hadn't left we would have been the ones to pack up and move on to some other spot where we could get away from people for the night.
 
thread revival to say that it hasn"t gotten any better and now there is a shortage of enforcement its going to get worse before it gets better.
its not even just the parks, its everywhere! I was overnighting at a walmart, one of very few that still allows us, and had someone rolled up the class A 2 parking spaces over when he had literally the whole parking lot.
 
We have seen, over the decades, that some people often have a desire to form spontaneous groupings. I am guessing it is some innate human instinct to clump together. We first noticed it when pulled over at a completely empty viewpoint on the Oregon coast. Within a few minutes half a dozen other cars would be there. This happened over and over. Before we got a truck camper we would often go to Death Valley and getting up early we would find a nice spot to pull over and enjoy the view while making coffee away from the campground hordes. Invariably, people would pull over near us to see, well, whatever there was to see. And being DV, the people stopping by were from all over the world.

Now that we have a truck camper we try very hard to camp in places not visible from any nearby roads or dirt two-tracks. It makes a world of difference to those of us that prefer solitude when out in the backcountry.
 
We have seen, over the decades, that some people often have a desire to form spontaneous groupings. I am guessing it is some innate human instinct to clump together. We first noticed it when pulled over at a completely empty viewpoint on the Oregon coast. Within a few minutes half a dozen other cars would be there. This happened over and over. Before we got a truck camper we would often go to Death Valley and getting up early we would find a nice spot to pull over and enjoy the view while making coffee away from the campground hordes. Invariably, people would pull over near us to see, well, whatever there was to see. And being DV, the people stopping by were from all over the world.

Now that we have a truck camper we try very hard to camp in places not visible from any nearby roads or dirt two-tracks. It makes a world of difference to those of us that prefer solitude when out in the backcountry.

Along a similar vein, it has been my experience in my years of exploring the Great Basin and Death Valley, and commuting to and from home and work near Death Valley; that whenever I've been holding it for a long time and pull over for a quick potty stop and there are no vehicles in sight, that as soon as I release along comes a rolling Rose Parade ... :sick:
 
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We have seen, over the decades, that some people often have a desire to form spontaneous groupings. I am guessing it is some innate human instinct to clump together. We first noticed it when pulled over at a completely empty viewpoint on the Oregon coast. Within a few minutes half a dozen other cars would be there. This happened over and over. Before we got a truck camper we would often go to Death Valley and getting up early we would find a nice spot to pull over and enjoy the view while making coffee away from the campground hordes. Invariably, people would pull over near us to see, well, whatever there was to see. And being DV, the people stopping by were from all over the world.

Now that we have a truck camper we try very hard to camp in places not visible from any nearby roads or dirt two-tracks. It makes a world of difference to those of us that prefer solitude when out in the backcountry.
Reminds me of e of the time I was enjoying an ocean view along hwy 1 and people would stop and ask what was I looking at. I had plenty of funny responses after the fact but at the time I was speechless. Will definitely remember your ‘not visible’ approach as I adventure!
 
Be any where with a camera ON a tripod and we will have the curious best friends.... Some stand very close to try to get too friendly.
 
At heart, are we WTW-ers any different?
We use WTW forum as the wide spot in the road to pull over virtually, & take a look at something interesting in the environment & discuss or observe others doing the same.
No complaint but it seems to be very similar to those pulling off the road where they see someone already stopped & looking around.
Just saying… :unsure:
 
On our trips to Yellowstone when I spotted some cars stopped and people
standing around I would find a place away from the crowds park and start searching.
Most of the time I would spot what they were looking at like animals.
It's a good way to not miss viewing something.But I respect the others and move
away to a less crowded spot.
Frank
 

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