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#1 Wandering Sagebrush

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 03:16 PM

I've learned that at least one of our members has lost his home to the fires in California, and there is a chance that more of our folks are also devastated by the fires.

 

If you can, please donate to reliable relief organization such as The American Red Cross and Samaritan's Purse to aid in the recovery for our members and the citizens of California.  If you are aware of other reliable agencies, please send me a PM, and I will update this text.

 

Other things that might be helpful at this time is for anyone with a place for one of our members (or any victim for that matter) to stay, please post and let us know what you can do.  As we learn more, there may be donations of household goods that would be helpful to our members.   When we hear from the impacted folks, we will publish what they need to help them recover.

 

Other agencies and needed aid:

 

Here's a list of Shelters and needed items.  (Thank you Moose Dog!)

 

Hopefully, the Wander the West spirit of helping others will be able to help folks get through this crisis.

 

Stay Tuned.


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#2 hoyden

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:13 PM

Thanks for posting this. Some old friends of mine lost their home of 30+ years in Santa Rosa, Coffee Park.

The whole neighborhood is gone. :(

 

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#3 Vic Harder

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:53 PM

yikes.  Do most of these folks have insurance?  It is devastating enough without that too!


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:57 PM

Just heard from an old Army buddy that a mutual friend has lost his house-moved back to SR after he retired, now his house s gone!  That whole area is always dry and subject to fire. I remember when I was growing up that a major fire took off in the hills between SR and Sonoma (where it is burning now) and got out of control and I remember my Dad telling me later that they were stopping traffic on HW 12 and  pulling out any men that looked healthy to fight the fire-different times and different methods, but the same type of problem-fire!  My dad was a volunteer fireman back then and has lot's of stories about fighting those yearly fires-especially breathing in all that burning poison oak. Most people in the country probably have insurance, not to sure about those in town.

 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 02:54 PM

One family of four that we know - daughter of one of the Lady's best friends - that lost everything in the Santa Rosa fire - fleeing in the middle of the night, one neighbor saving all the large animals by moving them to a large open space, are slowing making the first steps toward recovery. What do you do after a devastating loss like this? A friend from afar is bring in their 5th wheel RV for their use. Mom found them a spot in an RV park. All apartments, temporary housing, in the area are filled. Grandma is off to discount stores to buy her two grandkids clothes.

 

This is just a tiny glimpse of family's struggles in this ongoing tragedy.

 

Our thoughts are with everyone suffering and helping with this crisis.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:50 PM

Amazing devastation. Way back when I took fire science classes we learned about "conflagrations" but I never thought I'd see so many at once so close to home. Me, I think I'd take some time to decide what to do. The big decisions can wait a bit. 

 

To wake up in the middle of the night and having to bail right now. Most fires we get some warning, not here. I'm betting most of the fires turn out to be power lines arcing and that sort of thing. The winds were ferocious Sunday night. One of the times I didn't open the windows at night.


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#7 Lighthawk

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:28 AM

We've had two fires, and one is over 800 acres with 30 homes lost, and 8,000 who were evacuated (lifted today at noon).

Our local fairgrounds was the command center and shelter for large animals and their folks.  We have almost 100 fire companies from all over California helping fight our fires while Napa / Sonoma counties are burning still.  

http://calfire.ca.gov/index

 

 

Reposting a helpful list from a friend.

 

The Small List

1. Get a PO Box

2. Longer term rental search - include insurance on it so they pay directly for rental. Find a nice place that you like, don't settle. You should be able to get a "Like Property" so insurance should cover a nice place for you to live while you work through all this. You might be living here for 2 years, so choose wisely.

3. Find a place to buy some sturdy boots and gloves. Get some shovels.

4. Start working on the personal property list (this is not fun at all, be prepared to cry we sure did). Write down the moment you remember – keep list on phone or pad of paper with you at all times.

5. Save receipts. Loss of use insurance will cover incidentals too – hairbrush, phone chargers, etc.

6. As you buy things, tell the store owner your situation. Most stores will give you some level of discount as their way of helping you.

7. Let people do things for you. Do you have a friend that you can send to the store to buy you some basic clothes or comfort foods? Let them do it – they want to help and you don’t need to spend time doing these errands. (The ‘fun’ of shopping is gone…it quickly becomes a chore because you don’t want a new shirt, you want the one that you always liked to wear but now it’s gone and you are sad/mad.)

 

The Big List: 
1. Register at the shelters, with Red Cross and any other agency there, california FEMA, etc.
a. Most of the aid coming in will use these lists as a point of contact and will help to ensure that you don't get left out of anything.
b. This will be especially important should FEMA be activated, which in my opinion is very likely with the amount of devastation experienced.

2. Call Homeowners/Rental insurance to trigger "Loss of Use"
. This typically will allow you to be in a "Like" property for x number of years and sometimes has a dollar limit attached and sometimes not, this is dependent on your policy.
a. This coverage should also give you some immediate access to funds for essentials, clothes, toothbrushes, food, etc.
b. This will also get the ball rolling for the insurance claim on your home and rebuilding/personal property Dollars.
3. Get a PO Box and forward all mail to the Box.
. Use this PO Box as the mailing address on all forms you begin to fill out.
4. Start Searching for a Long term rental.
. Coordinate with your insurance company so that payments can be made directly from them using your “Loss of Use” money.
a. Plan on renting 1-2 years, but do not necessarily sign a lease for a full two years as circumstances can change.
5. Itemized List of belongings - (This is very hard but very necessary for your claim)
. I would organize by room and list everything that was there with a replacement cost. (you will cry a lot doing this and that is ok)
a. Replacement Cost should be what it would cost to replace not on sale from pottery barn, it should not be the price you paid for it with that 50% off coupon.
b. Make sure you list everything, even if it is above and beyond your policy limit. This is very important because everything above and beyond the policy limit is considered a Loss and can be claimed as such on your taxes - See #9
6. Call all of your utilities and either freeze or cancel service.  Electric, Gas, TV, Land Line phone

a. Newspaper delivery, either cancel or update to PO Box.
7. Call the rest of your insurance points as needed.
. Car insurance
a. Any specialty insurance for unique items
8. Permits - An unfortunate necessity.
. Debris Removal - as things wind down it will be necessary to remove the debris, this requires a permit usually. (This should be covered by your insurance, we had to force the issue but ask repeatedly.)
a. Erosion Control - If you are on any kind of hill or have sloped property you will need to put some sort of erosion control measures in place, again this will need some sort of permit.
b. Temporary Power Pole/Trailer on site Permit - Getting this earlier on can prove helpful in both the rebuilding process.
9. Taxes
. You will be able to claim the monetary loss of the value of all your items minus what you receive from your insurance company. I’m unfamiliar with the exact laws, but I believe that we were able to carry our losses back 2-5 years and received most of the money that we had paid in taxes back in a nice large check.
10. Network with others. You will learn so much from others as you go through the rebuilding process. We all have our strengths so share yours and use others. The amount of time that you will spend on the rebuild, insurance, recovery process is staggering so you need to use all your resources


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:30 AM

I just can't imagine...... Prayers for all :(


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

Andy, thanks for passing on the suggestions for recovery. I'm sharing with the folks we know who have been affected - a list that is growing.........heartbreaking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:12 PM

This is excellent information Lighhawk,  thanks so much for sharing and I'm passing it on. 


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