A Big litter box ....too much sand!

buckland

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Oh the humanity!.... Can't help it ! There are really people out there like this!! Like.... the Grand Canyon is "just a big hole" .... whoa. At least I got a few laughs!

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Rob, there should be more people like those in the article, it keeps them away from the places we love. Build lots of golf courses, close to the cities… very close to the cities. :)
 
I wish more folks would read and heed those warnings. My only complaint with our NPs is the extreme overpopulation of visitors. I do realize that I also add to that number, but I feel that I'm seeking out the beauty for a different, more spiritual experience. Many visitors are there just so they can post a cool pic on instagram. This type of visitor made us turn tail and run at our recent visit to Yosemite this last fall. We could not wait to escape the masses! This same mentality has affected the beach across the street from my house. During covid, a few people posted some photos and now every weekend the beach is full of city folk that bring nothing but bad attitudes and leave all their trash for me to pick up.
 
Cpt Davenport said:
I wish more folks would read and heed those warnings. My only complaint with our NPs is the extreme overpopulation of visitors. I do realize that I also add to that number, but I feel that I'm seeking out the beauty for a different, more spiritual experience. Many visitors are there just so they can post a cool pic on instagram. This type of visitor made us turn tail and run at our recent visit to Yosemite this last fall. We could not wait to escape the masses! This same mentality has affected the beach across the street from my house. During covid, a few people posted some photos and now every weekend the beach is full of city folk that bring nothing but bad attitudes and leave all their trash for me to pick up.
Same story on the "snow" side of the state.
 
I have a solution!!! Really. I am not sure when the RV lobbies got involved but our national parks are now national parking lots.
No camper longer than 25 feet. Period. No electricity provided nor generators allowed. That would open up twice as many sites half the size and eliminate 60% of the folks… why are we allowing and providing for those monster rigs? It is not a place for them. I was recently out on Cumberland island off Georgia. Folks got on the ferry with tents only. It was so nice to see.
 
When you realize these people are a very small fraction of park visitors it doesn't bother me. I mean some people don't like bacon!
 
ski3pin said:
Make everything "virtual" and they all stay home. YouTube and Amazon is getting us there. :)
I could not agree more. The sooner people so inclined decamp into their living rooms with their virtual worlds, the better. I hope they consider the advantages: no fuel expended, always close to the fridge and pantry, a comfy lounger, no expensive outdoor clothes, never too cold or hot, safe as could be! :cool:
 
AWG_Pics said:
I could not agree more. The sooner people so inclined decamp into their living rooms with their virtual worlds, the better. I hope they consider the advantages: no fuel expended, always close to the fridge and pantry, a comfy lounger, no expensive outdoor clothes, never too cold or hot, safe as could be! :cool:
I hear the echo of a loud "Amen" moving through the hall. :)
 
When we were camping in BBRSP the ranger there spoke of people leaving their GD “charmin Lilies” all over the place
When I first saw the “litter box “ in the review I thought it meant that!! That’s bad too !
Now I have Joni Mitchell in my head singing “a big litter box and they put up a parking lot”
 
buckland said:
I have a solution!!! Really. I am not sure when the RV lobbies got involved but our national parks are now national parking lots.
No camper longer than 25 feet. Period. No electricity provided nor generators allowed. That would open up twice as many sites half the size and eliminate 60% of the folks… why are we allowing and providing for those monster rigs? It is not a place for them. I was recently out on Cumberland island off Georgia. Folks got on the ferry with tents only. It was so nice to see.
Many years ago the motor home lobbyist tried to get Glacier NP to do major changes to Going to the Sun road so they could drive their mega home on wheels over that road.
The NP told them to take the bus there.
Frank
 
ski3pin said:
Make everything "virtual" and they all stay home. YouTube and Amazon is getting us there. :)
That creates a conundrum:
The fewer people that want to experience the few acres (not quite) unspoiled nature we have left the less political will to fund and protect it. At the same time the RV industry and the Hotel/Resort lobby will continue to push for more access and development claiming "this is what the public wants".

Glad I'm old.
 
JaSAn said:
That creates a conundrum:
The fewer people that want to experience the few acres (not quite) unspoiled nature we have left the less political will to fund and protect it. At the same time the RV industry and the Hotel/Resort lobby will continue to push for more access and development claiming "this is what the public wants".

Glad I'm old.
I'm glad I'm old too.
 
JaSAn said:
That creates a conundrum:
The fewer people that want to experience the few acres (not quite) unspoiled nature we have left the less political will to fund and protect it. At the same time the RV industry and the Hotel/Resort lobby will continue to push for more access and development claiming "this is what the public wants".

Glad I'm old.

You hit on an important point. Very few of the public are aware how hard the RV and "Recreation" industries push for more fees, development, and privatization of our public land treasures.
 
Just to be fair.... some of those folks must be writing those reviews tongue in cheek.... right? Too much sand? I mean it's called White Sands... or

"They only got two brain cells and both of them are fighting for third place."
 
buckland said:
Just to be fair.... some of those folks must be writing those reviews tongue in cheek.... right? Too much sand? I mean it's called White Sands... or

"They only got two brain cells and both of them are fighting for third place."
Like Yellowstone is yucky it smells like sulfur.Guess what it's an old volcano that's how they smell.
Frank
 
Yes, several of the reviews were funny - the intent of the article. This was my favorite - Grand Canyon "It’s to[o] big. … Also my wife decided to divorce me while we were there." This one makes me yearn for a corresponding review from the fellow's (former) wife.
 
Greetings all

I have read this thread with a mix of interest, optimism and surprise.

Do you all not realize that WTW and nearly all web based outdoor forums are a lobby for tourism ?

Tom, who once owned FWC, can be seen in a video years ago lauding FWC campers as a means for the vacationer to get farther and farther into the nations great treasures while taking along all the comforts of home.

Search the term WTW in ANY other forum and it is cited as a place to find the real inside scoop on where to go and how to get there.

Turn off the internet until it gains some sense of responsibility for its impact.

David Graves
 
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