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#21 Oilbrnr

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:34 AM

Stopped briefly in Goldfield, NV. Otherwise it was pretty much just windshield time. Left Phx. Friday for the Bay area eagling in the morning, was back home Sunday night with a brief detour though Flagstaff. 

 

Truck tires barely fit though the jacks, but otherwise it was pretty easy. Used the ratchet straps in a X pattern to secure. It didn't move, but it is sitting on a Bedrug FWIW. 

 

 

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 02:04 PM

Looks good!  Now comes the fun part!


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#23 Oilbrnr

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:17 PM

Well, I now know I want to return to NV. Lots of interesting areas worth exploring once it cools down some! Though, since we're used to it, the nights now really aren't all that bad in remote desert areas.


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#24 Casa Escarlata Robles Too

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 10:17 PM

Stopped briefly in Goldfield, NV. Otherwise it was pretty much just windshield time. Left Phx. Friday for the Bay area eagling in the morning, was back home Sunday night with a brief detour though Flagstaff. 

 

Truck tires barely fit though the jacks, but otherwise it was pretty easy. Used the ratchet straps in a X pattern to secure. It didn't move, but it is sitting on a Bedrug FWIW. 

Looking good.

If you have a problem with the tiers too snug on the jacks you can get "jack bracket" extenders.

Some of the narrower campers on full size trucks need them.

Enjoy the camper.

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 11:20 PM

I just bought a 2018 Ram 2500 and ended up also getting the jack extension brackets.  It was only clearing my stock fender flares by what seemed like millimeters.

 

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Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:39 PM

Looking good @Oilbrnr! 

 

Yeah, I had to get the jack extensions, too. Steven in Boseman was nice enough to provide me a couple of them. Seems like it may be cheaper to do those DIY. 

 

I would like to know more about your issues with the Expo1 bumper. Not able to fix/adjust the latches in the field? I heard they were incorporating gate stops into the newer bumpers. Want to see how you make out with having the swing outs modified. May have to do that myself. I did as much research I could prior to ordering... there are not a lot of options for swing gate bumpers for the 2500. Now that you have the FWC on how far back do you think the swing gates need to be? Thanks.

 

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#27 Oilbrnr

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 01:40 PM

I *think* I've got some flat stock that I can make some extensions. One site had them at $119! (I didn't look for very long at any rate, maybe there are some cheaper out there)

 

The primary problem with the Expo1 is with the latch-hook release handle design. Maybe they've revised since mine. I just kept getting the run-around on a remedy to the problem. "This needs to be looked at by Engineering." Oh, you mean the guy two cubes away... Or, "we'll get back to you." On and on.

 

They tend to jam up after any distance on washboard and dust. Not easy to relase from the backside either in that situation.

 

As to what I'm going to do for the FWC? Well, I think it is going to be a combo of moving the whole mount back *maybe* 1/2" (any more it will start to loose the aesthetic lines of the bottom of the bed and decrease departure angles) and then modifying the arms. They'll need to be cut at the bearing hub, extended out 2+" and then the latches will need to be cut and 'tunneled' back in that same amount to mate with the bumper side latch pads.

 

I'm somewhat concerned that arms in modifying them, will suffer some rigidity. You throw my 35" or possibly 37" tire on, or 120# of fuel or water, they may flop a bit or oscillate especially on highway expansion joints. This causes a bucking that you feel in the truck. Though this happens with any swing out design that I've had on now three different trucks.    

 

Again, I'm going to take it to a custom fab shop here in Phoenix that makes some nice stuff, and see what their suggestions are. Heck, they may offer a complete design that I like better and I'll just take it in the shorts and sell this one.

 

@trailerpup, are you putting yours on a RAM?


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Posted 01 August 2019 - 10:56 PM

Yes. Going on a 2018 Power Wagon. But, I won't run the swing outs with the Hawk. I read those threads on expoport and pwr. If I had a do-over I would've tried the Buckstop first. Not sure if Expo1 is doing anything to get their house in order. Couldn't bring myself to do the Aluminess. Slim pickens. Wish FWC could match the length of the bed that the camper is going in. But, I'm sure that would not be a feasible business model. Please, post on the internets how it goes.

 

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#29 Oilbrnr

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Posted 02 August 2019 - 05:35 PM

FWC's fit a lot of trucks - poorly. At the rear, that extra 4" is a pain. And the gap between the cab and the front wall is wasted real estate.

 

Do you carry extra fuel? 

 

I'm really kinda vacillating on what to do. I need at least 10 gallons extra. I know AT offers a kit to mount a carrier on the jack brackets. Haven't seen one in person yet to judge how robust that approach is. Raises the CG. Could run a tighter rear bumper and not deal with the swing-out hassle. 

 

Limits me to 35", which is not the end of the world. Yet.  :lol:


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 05:40 PM

FWC's fit a lot of trucks - poorly. At the rear, that extra 4" is a pain. And the gap between the cab and the front wall is wasted real estate.

 

Do you carry extra fuel? 

 

I'm really kinda vacillating on what to do. I need at least 10 gallons extra. I know AT offers a kit to mount a carrier on the jack brackets. Haven't seen one in person yet to judge how robust that approach is. Raises the CG. Could run a tighter rear bumper and not deal with the swing-out hassle. 

 

Limits me to 35", which is not the end of the world. Yet.  :lol:

 

I carry 5 gallons on one of the AT brackets.  Has worked well for me.  If you want to see it let me know and we can figure a time to meet.


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