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[rando]

This an editorial, not a news article, but it raises some very interesting points about the new bill that is proposing a new National Park out of some of the remains of GSENM:

https://www.nytimes....tened-utah.html

 

The devil is really in the details of this one.

[buckland]

Seems much of what ails the world is the struggle between the haves and have nots.

https://www.theguard...downers-montana

[buckland]

The new "Projected Protests" happening on buildings in NYC, DC, CO and elsewhere. At least it puts it up front in people's minds.

 

 

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[clikrf8]

Yep-now they want to drill off the California  coast for the first time in 40 years (I guess all coasts now including the Arctic are now on the sale list, [except for  Florida because the GOP gov wants to run for congress])! They did not have to live through or clean up the last spill we had or that one up in Alaska! Speaking of oil spills and the like, congress just stopped putting $ into the fund that they once set up to cover the next spill. They never stop pushing and each time they do, it goes to court and adds another road block to properly managing all those  wonderful Public Lands. Make sure you vote!!!You can add NE California to that list of  places you still go play in (maybe I should not say that). To many people up here in the NE-don't come here !
 
Smoke

Hi Smoke,
You pointed out a great area to explore between NE California and Western Nevada. It’s beautiful there and quiet. We plan to do more rockhounding in that area this spring. Happy camping.

[buckland]

Another series of articles about our National Park System
https://www.theguard...and-canyon-zion

[buckland]

If I had a Billion Bucks I would do as the Owner of Bert's Bees up in Maine or the North Face folks down in Chile. In 1979 I was attached to the US Embassy in Paraguay and traveled a lot..... my favorite people and place was Chile... incredibly like Alaska along the coast. Before cell phones and internet the Torres de Paine was wildly remote. I spent a month hiking up and around the Grey Glacier. It imprinted on me (I was 25) how valuable that wildness is. We are lucky that this happened to save a place on earth for future generations to feel that same feeling.  Wish the spirit would infect our wealthy to do likewise if the Feds don't pony up. 

http://www.bbc.com/n...merica-42868690

[Smokecreek1]

Nice-I've often thought about visiting that part of the world! Conservation is not a part of how this bunch of thinks-unless they can make a buck-that is! Gotta vote and hope there is something left to save!!

 

Smoke

[buckland]

Another hopeful story .... “what if they threw a party and nobody came?”

https://www.csmonito...ing-up-to-drill

[ski3pin]

For a broader view, we have been rewatching Ken Burns' series on the National Parks. This series presents an excellent historical overview of America trying to come to grips with how to manage, conserve, preserve what little remains of unspoiled land on our continent. These battles are not new. And, I suspect will continue until we are all fighting over the last crumb.

 

"But, however abundantly supplied from legitimate sources, every national park is besieged by thieves and robbers and beggars with all sorts of plans and pleas for possession of some coveted treasure of water, timber, pasture, rights of way, etc. Nothing dollarable is safe, however guarded." John Muir

[buckland]

Muir got that right. .... not sure who said it but sort of .... "I like people...it's humanity I can't stand"....... indeed I do not have high hopes having witnessed our species consume the earth.  An interesting read... some sad some hopeful, is "the world without us"

https://en.wikipedia...orld_Without_Us