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A new National Park buried in the stimulus bill!

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#11 Machinebuilder


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Posted 03 January 2021 - 01:46 PM

If you Go to the New River, take the road through the gorge. It's well worth it.


I'm generally not a fan of going to National parks. I prefer to be less restricted in what I can do.


I live next to The Great Smokey Mountain NP, I hardly ever go to it because I can go to the Cherokee NF which has most of the same features but I can get away from the crowds of people.


In the park, there are many trailheads near Gatlinburg that have never been sized for the amount of traffic they get, BUT somehow they found money to pave the trail. I do not find it fun to hike with hundreds of other people in hearing distance.

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#12 PaulT


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Posted 03 January 2021 - 07:18 PM

I grew up in Sylva on the other side of the hill from you and worked summers in Cherokee for several years. Back in the 60’s it took as long as 5 hours to drive from Cherokee to Gatlinburg in the summer. Can’t imagine what it must be like now. It was the only national park within one day driving range of more than half of the US population several years ago. That may have changed but it does explain why it is crowded.

About 20 miles as the crow flies, 35 miles as the road meanders.


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#13 Machinebuilder


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Posted 04 January 2021 - 02:10 PM

I avoid the Gatlinburg/Seveirville area like the Plague. You wouldn't recognize it any more.


Around 15 years ago on New Years day I sat in bumper to bumper traffic trying to leave Cades Cove for 4 hours.

It was a slushy icy snowy mess and people in TN do not have appropriate tires.


A great Dual sport ride is Tatum Gap near Andrews. Again National Forest.

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Posted 06 January 2021 - 03:58 PM

I also heard that Saguaro NP will be increased by 1200 acres as part of the bill but the only info I was above to find online was this...



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Posted 08 January 2021 - 02:53 AM

welllll, i am just for protection, however the gov can get it done. if they do it kinda-right i am not going to be negative. 

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Posted 18 January 2021 - 02:45 PM

In the case of New River Gorge and most all of the National Park designations by Congress in recent decades, the areas were already units of the National Park System. On its own, the designation does not actually change much and in terms of the NPS budget they were already covered.  This primarily a branding thing since the general public knows the "National Park" brand better than the National Monument. National River, National Seashore, Lakeshore, Riverway, Historic Site, etc. The  "National Park" designation is more a sign of political consensus and not a reflection of value or importance. Of course it is more difficult to undo than a National Monument designation by Presidential executive order (i.e Bear's Ear in UT).

Having been an NPS employee for almost 40 years , I've come to think Congress should just get it over with and designate most if not all existing units of the National Park System as National Parks. The existing array of unit designations Congress created suggests more a distinction than actually exists.

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