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#1 AWG_Pics

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Posted 17 January 2023 - 03:37 AM

An interesting article that makes it even more clear why we should enjoy and protect this place we have.

https://aeon.co/essa...lanet-heres-why


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#2 Casa Escarlata Robles Too

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Posted 17 January 2023 - 05:33 PM

Very interesting.There is no planet B.We're stuck here so we might as well take care of our home.

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Posted 18 January 2023 - 02:19 PM

An interesting article that makes it even more clear why we should enjoy and protect this place we have.

https://aeon.co/essa...lanet-heres-why

My fear is that not enough people understand that, or if they do, they cover it up because of profit motives.  A recent article about Exxon executives in the 1970s, covering up warnings from their engineers is a prime example.

 

Iā€™m also conflicted about my own contributions due to desires to wander about in truck and camper.

 

We has met the enemy, and they is us.


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#4 AWG_Pics

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Posted 18 January 2023 - 04:44 PM

My fear is that not enough people understand that, or if they do, they cover it up because of profit motives.  A recent article about Exxon executives in the 1970s, covering up warnings from their engineers is a prime example.

 

Iā€™m also conflicted about my own contributions due to desires to wander about in truck and camper.

 

We has met the enemy, and they is us.

 

That Exxon report was disheartening. Having made technical presentations to the upper management of an international oil company, I can verify that those people are a different breed of cat than most of us. The most unsettling thing I read while working for them was in an annual stockholders report. It was one line about accounting for the cost of an oil tanker that had run aground off the coast of France. I could not find a single word in that report or anywhere else that my company had learned any lessons or decided to take proactive preventative measures against future spills. It was just a minor bump in the finances. A cost of doing business. That was when I knew I had to change careers. Which I did.

 

I am pretty sure the effect of you or I driving our gassers into the back country is less than a thimble's worth of effect in an ocean of change. I view it as celebrating the beauty of nature before it becomes impossible to do so for one reason or the other.

 

Keep exploring and gathering those amazing photos of yours. It is really all we can do now. The earth will be fine in the long run. Human influences will peak, fade and then disappear. Life and nature will go on.


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Posted 18 January 2023 - 04:57 PM

Yup, Ma Nature makes the rules we all live and survive by, whether we want to acknowledge it or not. And most do not have a clue. I agree, the earth will survive and recover from anything we do to it. Give it a little of that "geologic time". Mankind, I'm convinced, will not. Our suicide mission will continue.

 

And another "yup". Yup, we'll continue to explore it while we still can. :)

 

Thanks for sharing the article!


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#6 Casa Escarlata Robles Too

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Posted 18 January 2023 - 07:56 PM

Mom earth has it's natural cycles,we as the leading "thinking" animals living here

have to figure how to contribute less and adapt more.

Take care of our home in space ,it's the only one we have.

Take only pictures ,leave only footprints.

 

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Posted 21 January 2023 - 12:20 AM

I believe Jacques Cousteau said, "Every environmental problem we face can be traced to overpopulation." This is the eight-billion-pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about. Our basic economic systems all rely on an ever-increasing number of consumers and producers. That is the definition of a Ponzi scheme. If we had had the sense to limit human population to a reasonable carrying capacity for the planet, we'd have no environmental problems. But the Selfish Gene still rules.


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Posted 21 January 2023 - 01:06 AM

I believe Jacques Cousteau said, "Every environmental problem we face can be traced to overpopulation." This is the eight-billion-pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about. Our basic economic systems all rely on an ever-increasing number of consumers and producers. That is the definition of a Ponzi scheme. If we had had the sense to limit human population to a reasonable carrying capacity for the planet, we'd have no environmental problems. But the Selfish Gene still rules.

Yes, and well said.


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Posted 21 January 2023 - 02:20 AM

I've noticed that it very difficult to convince the most adamant population size critics to do the right thing.  I do not expect this selfish attitude to change.  \_(惄)_/;

 

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Posted 21 January 2023 - 04:09 PM

I've noticed that it very difficult to convince the most adamant population size critics to do the right thing.  I do not expect this selfish attitude to change.  \_(惄)_/;

 

Paul

My favorite example of that is Ed Abbey, the god of so many environmentalists, who fathered five children with five different women. 


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