Electric vs manual water pump
#1
Posted 04 September 2007 - 01:38 PM
Manual is better, because of...
Lower cost?
No electricity used?
Maybe no winter freeze problems?
Easier to trouble shoot if a clog happens?
Because I do not have my camper yet, how does the manual water pump work...
Each pump produces x ounces?
Water only flows while pump handle moves?
Also, someone made a comment about something hitting the manual ? or electric? pump and it accidentally turn on?
Mike
'08 ATC Cougar (built 06/16/08)
# of nights in camper: '08=15, '12=21,'13=16, '14=10, '15=52, '16=11, '17=20 (equals 145)
#2
Posted 04 September 2007 - 04:40 PM
We really like the electric water pump option, more convenient for larger amounts of water, dish washing, filling water bottles, etc. Winterizing is more difficult with it though. To do it properly the water lines should be disconnected to drain the pump completely or add an antifreeze to the system which I don't like doing. Even without the pump the system still needs to be winterized to keep it from freezing. So far we haven't had any problems, but the camper and truck are garaged when not in use. The switch on our pump must be held down to run water so no accident on is possible.
#3
Posted 04 September 2007 - 05:09 PM
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#4
Posted 04 September 2007 - 06:01 PM
But hey, I like the manual windows on my commuter.
#5
Posted 04 September 2007 - 07:33 PM
I added a electric pump and put a valve inline to reduce the waterflow if i need to. Even with the electric pump you can still use the handpump.
#6
Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:15 PM
We have the electric pump. Even with it, you need to prime the faucet with the hand pump before turning it on. And I have accidently turned on the pump by bumping into the button also. All in all, I prefer the ease of the elctric.
One non-factory option I have seen is a foot pump. It is the type used in yachts so it may take some research to find one. It pumped on the downstroke as you step on it and on the upstroke when you release it so you get a constant stream, unlike the hand pump. Might be a bit of work but just wanted to let you know there is another option out there.
Ted
edit - found one on line: http://www.defender....16451&id=223941
#7
Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:25 PM
#8
Posted 04 September 2007 - 09:32 PM
The link you posted is to a pump that puts out 4 gal per min. That is a lot of flow. Kramer would approve of that shower. For comparison, I believe the electric pumps put out 1.0 GPM. Although, since it is manual, you can always just skip a beat and it could be more efficient than the electric since you don't waste as much. Thanks.
Now, just roaming around in a stock Land Cruiser (not stock for long though... bawahahha [evil laugh])
#9
Posted 04 September 2007 - 10:58 PM
It keeps you from wasting water when washing hands, brushing teeth, rinsing stuf, etc. It also uses absolutely no electricity, needs less maintenance and is easy and in-expensive to replace. It will generate a lot less gray water.
BTW, the handle on the manual pump has two positions, one of which keeps the prime when left there and the other releases the prime (easy winterizing!). The positions are usually marked on the side.
I sort of got around the two-hand problem by keeping a dish-detergent squeeze bottle of water by the sink when I was fulltiming and that also meant better rinsing because the water went right were I wanted it.
#10
Posted 05 September 2007 - 12:53 AM
Since we will be getting an ATC (no shower option) we will be going with an Outback Porta-Privy and heat water via solar plastic bag, the stove, or a Zodi heater.
I especially like what Pete said...
It keeps you from wasting water when washing hands, brushing teeth, rinsing stuff, etc. It also uses absolutely no electricity, needs less maintenance and is easy and in-expensive to replace. It will generate a lot less gray water.
The ATC only holds 15 gallons of water, and we tend to be pretty stingy with water.
But, since I have until June 2008, I have plenty of time to make the final decision.
Thanks for all the great feedback!
Mike
'08 ATC Cougar (built 06/16/08)
# of nights in camper: '08=15, '12=21,'13=16, '14=10, '15=52, '16=11, '17=20 (equals 145)
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