Posting in the Advocacy forum - Primer

Janet H

Senior Member
Site Team
Jan 4, 2012
Eastern WA
Recently there have been a few newsworthy and popular topics that have been closed because of rancor caused by members with minority dissenting views. These topics began as discussions about land-use issues, advocacy, stewardship and associated regulatory issues. These topics wandered off the trail and were filled with posts by folks taking personal swipes and posts that were charged with political opinion. In the future, as an alternative to closing these threads, the site team will actively remove comments that are deemed disruptive, obnoxious or trolly. The site rules are specific about this type of trolling. Members who author these comments may also, find their accounts restricted.

Our community is widely diverse and members hold varying political views. The key to retaining good discussions in the advocacy forum is the tone of the post. Collegial discussion free from rancor, personal attacks, name calling and insults is possible but demands self control from posters. We ask that you meet this standard if you are going to post here.

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Hi Jane H
You mention sarcasm and belligerence, but humor is also path that often doesn't work well in this e-type communication. Unless the person is a very good writer or the idea extremely simple, it goes awry and is misunderstood causing ill-feelings or anger. I've had enough attempts go flat or caustic that I pretty much quit trying to be funny in email or electronic communications.
And in my heart of hearts I believe humor is one of the best ways to reach people or make a point.
Just got my latest issue of the "Public Lands Monitor-newsletter for retired BLM and those interested in Public Lands. Some interesting info stuff came from an interview with the "Acting BLM Diretcor (one of the many "Actings" in this admin) especially concerning the supposed DOI reorganization ( the Sec Interior and certain Utah Pol's plan to move everyone to the west w/o any input from DOI/congress, etc., and other interested parties-part of the plan calls for the loss of 5000 positions over time and a very large new office in Utah. Lot's of noise against this already started by many groups and even some in congress.

This is the first interaction with any former BLM group with experience in these things, and this seems odd go me -I know I have been through several of them in the past. Seems like with the "Zinster" gone now and a new Demo house, the hope is this plan well suffer the fate of the many other "like "plans" in the past and be forgotten but with this admin nothing is certain anymore! Some talk on ANWR too-thought the plan for for just a few coastal acres to be impacted now it seems like in the new Draft EIS the best plan for protection calls is for "only" 60% of it to be impacted. We got to keep watching for these so-called new plans for our Public Lands -protected or not- because the use and protection of our Public Lands is on the line.


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