billharr
Senior Member
Time to write our Congressmen and Senators. Please watch the two attached videos. We are being ripped off and our National Parks and our government lands are not getting any of the money.
That is what I have figured*. I reserved a site last year and when I knew I could not make it I cancelled (and actually got some money back!) but I guess I am a weirdo. I also have to use "the wreck" to get wilderness permits and the price keeps going up. What pisses me off is that even if I wanted to do a walk - in permit there is a fee now. And last summer I got one of the last permits for a particular trailhead. There were 15 permits I saw one other person on the trail. that day. The weather was a little spicy so I guess everyone else bailed.Cpt Davenport said:I think folks with more money than sense are gobbling up all the sites "just in case" they can make it.
Fees that goes to a private business for profit. The for profit privatization of our public recreation is now driving how our land managers and agencies do their jobs.teledork said:That is what I have figured*. I reserved a site last year and when I knew I could not make it I cancelled (and actually got some money back!) but I guess I am a weirdo. I also have to use "the wreck" to get wilderness permits and the price keeps going up. What pisses me off is that even if I wanted to do a walk - in permit there is a fee now. And last summer I got one of the last permits for a particular trailhead. There were 15 permits I saw one other person on the trail. that day. The weather was a little spicy so I guess everyone else bailed.
This messed up system is a regular topic of conversation here in the Eastern Sierra. I "zoomed" a public meeting with a new district ranger and the question came up repeatedly. The district ranger claimed she was not at liberty to discuss the issue. I kept my words in my mouth.
edit to add: *more money than decency too
and - I'll watch the videos later when I am not itching to get outside in the SUN! so excuse me if this was mentioned: the campground rules have always been that you have to occupy the site the first night or forfeit it so handling no-shows should be clear But the campgrounds are managed by yet another non-government entity and I am not sure they have any desire or guidance to do anything but clean the bathrooms and sell firewood. Hell - I was in a campground Sept. 2021 - total ban on campfires, fire rings taped over with red tape and NO FIRE tags. Some entitled %$^ built a fire and he camp host was notified. He said there was nothing he could do. I' was like, really? I've got a cell signal - what exactly is the problem?
We, very much concur. But we encourage all the pilgrims and bubbas to go to the popular areas. They are fantastic, well worth the time, effort, and struggle to visit. They are popular for a reason and NOT to be missed. Go find out why! And, you will be so comfortable and feel safe surrounded by all your friends.AWG_Pics said:All the more reason to avoid popular areas.
I whole heartedly agree, but aren’t you supposed to use the Sarcasm font for that?ski3pin said:We, very much concur. But we encourage all the pilgrims and bubbas to go to the popular areas. They are fantastic, well worth the time, effort, and struggle to visit. They are popular for a reason and NOT to be missed. Go find out why! And, you will be so comfortable and feel safe surrounded by all your friends.
HAHAHAHA! I like their spaceship, flatbed Hawk model.Casa Escarlata Robles Too said: